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Re:Berlin-Munich high-speed train services carry 2M passenge... by jillesvangurp on Sunday June 17, 2018 @06:54AM (#17331821)
This came just too late for me to benefit from. I was doing a project in Munich last year and traveling back and forth when Air Berlin went bankrupt (I was on their second last flight) and Lufthansa flights became a combination of stupidly expensive and unavailable. Door to door the plane took about 3.5 hours, which is pretty good. Most of that is waiting, dealing with security, and public transport, etc. The flight itself is less than an hour typically.

So, I took the old ICE a couple of times which took over 6 hours and indeed never really gets anywhere near it's maximum speed. They had a particularly slow variant taking nearly 7 hours. The new one should be a bit under 4 hours. So, the new line is very competitive with air travel and I'd prefer it over taking a plane. It's a much more relaxed way of traveling. German trains are pretty comfortable.

They could improve things further by eliminating stations from the route and improving the track. https://www.openrailwaymap.org/ has a nice visualization of the speed limits on different routes. There are only a handful of segments where trains can go full speed in Germany. If you look at the Berlin-Munich track, it only goes full speed about half of the route. IMHO, Berlin-Munich could get to about 2.5 hours but it requires a lot of investment. Faster if they get proper high speed trains. Compare this to France, which has proper high speed tracks and trains ride at 300 km/hour there.

Re:Berlin-Munich high-speed train services carry 2M passenge... by Tomte on Sunday June 17, 2018 @08:10AM (#17332038)
Eliminating stations is nearly impossible, for political reasons. There are ICE stops that are widely known to be just because an influential politician lives in that town.

That‘s also what happened with this new Berlin-Munich connections. The route makes little sense when you want to connect both cities as fast as possible. The detour only makes sense if you understand that the route needed buy-in from the states in goes through, and it was galling to state governments not to have their biggest cities connected, as well.

But it‘s not just influential elites. When Deutsche Bahn recently mulled killing the IC stop (not ICE - a category lower) stop in my town I was very unhappy. Fortunately they decided against it. But just from the plain numbers I can believe that it shouldn‘t have an IC stop.

Re:Berlin-Munich high-speed train services carry 2M passenge... by theyinwhy on Sunday June 17, 2018 @10:53AM (#17332597)
Afaik most european train companies get their biggest share of money from the cities the trains stop at. Without this they would make big losses.