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Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by nighthawk1 on Saturday June 16, 2018 @03:49PM (#17328989)
I think many times these arrests are meant to be a demonstration that law enforcement is doing their job. I imagine even the arresting agents realize this guy is a drop in the ocean and his customers will quickly flock to his replacement.

Similar to those folks who work in a corporate environment who complete a document that they know will be jettisoned into a corporate black hole but checks off a requirement.

Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by tylersmith on Saturday June 16, 2018 @03:57PM (#17329049)
Sure, but "doing their job" is a bullshit excuse for taking somebody's life away. Honestly it's worse IMO. They know it accomplishes nothing except making them look a tiny bit better to their bosses. Destroying a person's life for career advancement is quite different than making a worthless gdoc that nobody will read.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by giarc on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:06PM (#17329091)
>excuse for taking somebody's life away.

There are a million other things he could have sold online that wouldn't have resulted in 20 years in jail. Whether you agree with the illegal status of drugs or not, if someone choose to subvert the law, you can't expect law enforcement not to prosecute.

Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by jMyles on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:21PM (#17329174)
> if someone choose to subvert the law, you can't expect law enforcement not to prosecute.

Sure, that's fine.

But it also obfuscates the more important point: I can expect (and I do expect) that a reasonable, mature society stop this idiotic practice in the first place.

Refusing to learn from the failures of drug prohibition throughout history is one thing, but continuing a current and clearly failed experiment for an entire century is flabbergasting and childish.

Who will be the last person who's life is ruined for no reason? Will it be this dude? Or someone in the same position tomorrow?

Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by s73v3r_ on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:46PM (#17329317)
"Sure, but "doing their job" is a bullshit excuse for taking somebody's life away."

I can't have sympathy for someone who was selling opioids to addicts, exacerbating a terrible epidemic.

"Destroying a person's life"

The feds didn't do that, his own actions did that.

Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by tylersmith on Saturday June 16, 2018 @05:25PM (#17329514)
> I can't have sympathy for someone who was selling opioids to addicts, exacerbating a terrible epidemic.

That's a philosophical question about how much people own their own lives versus how much you should be able to dictate their lives for your own selfish sense of peace of mind. We're not going to change anyone's minds on that in HN comments.

> The feds didn't do that, his own actions did that.

The "feds" did do that, in response to his actions, because people like you manadte via votes that they do that.

Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by s73v3r_ on Saturday June 16, 2018 @08:28PM (#17330269)
No. He did it to himself, through his actions.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by TomMarius on Saturday June 16, 2018 @09:11PM (#17330394)
He's not there voluntarily, is he?
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by s73v3r_ on Saturday June 16, 2018 @09:14PM (#17330401)
He is responsible for his own actions. No one forced him to become a drug kingpin.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by jMyles on Sunday June 17, 2018 @12:47AM (#17330919)
That's just not the point. Not the point at all.

Forget this guy for a second.

The real question here is: will this act (or generally, all of the actions taken by the state pursuant to enforcing prohibition) help anyone? Will it reduce death, disease, crime, misery, addiction?

Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by s73v3r_ on Sunday June 17, 2018 @02:56PM (#17333703)
That is entirely the point. This guy made a conscious decision to feel in drugs he knew we illegal and harmful. I have zero sympathy for him. He knew exactly what he was doing, and what the consequences were. He did this to himself
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by jMyles on Sunday June 17, 2018 @08:44PM (#17335195)
As often is the case when debating with you, it's hard to understand the actual difference of viewpoint.

It seems like you just value revenge and compliance over a functioning civil society.

If you can't point to a tangible reduction in death, disease, misery, or addiction from these sorts of state actions, then I just don't see that you have a point to make at all.

Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by TomMarius on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @12:39PM (#17348173)
So, if we go a bit to the extreme, the survivors of Nazi camps also did it to themselves, since everything was done according to German laws?