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Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by cf498 on Saturday June 16, 2018 @03:46PM (#17328977)
>US authorities arrested Vallerius in September last year, at the Atlanta airport after he arrived in the US to attend and participate in the World Beard and Mustache Championships that was being held in Austin, Texas.

And is facing a life sentence.

Dont travel to such countries. Never ever period.

Crossing a border is a big decision, no matter how cheap the tickets are. I dont get people who keep doing this, its not like those are split second decisions.

Why in your right mind would you do this without carefully considering what the effects of you being in that country might be. I had female friends talking about going to holiday in Dubai, another friend with a Turkish passport visited his family in the south east recently.

Think for a moment for gods sake.

Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by tylersmith on Saturday June 16, 2018 @03:52PM (#17329009)
Overconfidence is one of OPSECs biggest vulnerabilities. He was much safer in France but clearly felt he was completely under the radar. Using LocalBitcoin accounts directly is a big sign that he didn't fully understand how deeply he was in a mess.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by pjc50 on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:58PM (#17329384)
> Crossing a border is a big decision, no matter how cheap the tickets are.

While generally I agree with you, some are trivial. Especially where the EU has gone to great effort to make them trivial to cross. Or where they are fractal and run through houses: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baarle-Nassau

Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by jonhendry18 on Sunday June 17, 2018 @03:00AM (#17331217)
It's completely trivial to cross between states inside the US, but if the next state over legalizes marijuana, and you take a road trip to bring back some weed and edibles, by crossing state lines your road trip may become a Federal drug trafficking offense, with severe penalties if caught.

Even the easiest border crossing can carry significant risks depending on the context.

Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by giarc on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:03PM (#17329077)
He obviously didn't know they had his identity, but I would agree, if running a criminal enterprise, be careful where you go.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by kbenson on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:37PM (#17329253)
> if running a criminal enterprise, be careful where you go.

More specifically, and more commonly, if you have or will break local laws in a country, be careful of visiting there.

In some locations, that means don't be gay, or don't be a women out of a specific outfit, etc.

Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by cf498 on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:08PM (#17329104)
Not just then. Your local laws and rights dont mean shit in your holiday destination. This should be the very first question you ask yourself when traveling.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by tylersmith on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:36PM (#17329249)
Hell, even when traveling domestically to other states you should ask that question and research where you're going.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by cf498 on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:46PM (#17329314)
The states concept is something that is mostly relevant to the US. The different in states in for example Germany is extremly limited.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by AdamM12 on Saturday June 16, 2018 @05:38PM (#17329587)
I feel like this is really only relevant to gun laws/hunting. Not sure what other laws are as swiss cheese as they are.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by jonhendry18 on Sunday June 17, 2018 @03:25AM (#17331290)
There's also pot legalization differences between states, combined with Federal concerns.

Go to Colorado and buy some edibles, you're fine. Carry some over the border into Kansas, and not only are you breaking Kansas law, but if caught they may hand you over to the Feds and penalties may be severe. (Crossing a state border makes it a Federal issue.)

Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by SamReidHughes on Sunday June 17, 2018 @08:23PM (#17335139)
Correct me if I'm wrong but it's a federal issue and can be enforced even if you don't cross state lines. There's a drug case where Scalia seemingly ignored his previous opinion about what can be regulated as "interstate commerce" that I remember.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by jonhendry18 on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @04:49AM (#17353617)
True, I'm sure there's something they can get you on without crossing state lines, but in a legal-pot state at least the local cops probably won't turn you in.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by SamReidHughes on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @10:14AM (#17355543)
That something is possession.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by AdamM12 on Sunday June 17, 2018 @01:23PM (#17333276)
Yeah kind forgot about that.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by s73v3r_ on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:43PM (#17329293)
This is sounding more and more like you're advocating against traveling the world at all.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by cf498 on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:48PM (#17329330)
Not at all. Its advocating to think about your own actions. If you make a reasonable calculation to travel to Somalia, it might be a wonderful experience with limited risk,just think before you act.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by laretluval on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:54PM (#17329369)
You don't become a prominent online drug vendor because of a careful, risk-averse disposition.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by s73v3r_ on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:42PM (#17329283)
"And is facing a life sentence. Dont travel to such countries. Never ever period."

Wouldn't the proper thing to take away is, "don't become a drug kingpin"?

Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by nighthawk1 on Saturday June 16, 2018 @03:56PM (#17329034)
Similarly when these folks hang out in countries that would happily extradite to the USA. The smarter ones thought ahead about such matters.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by pcthrowaway on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:20PM (#17329170)
Just to clarify, he was sentenced to 20 years (with the plea deal). If he's lucky, he may get out in 10.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by tptacek on Saturday June 16, 2018 @10:13PM (#17330569)
He was charged federally, and federal prisons don't do parole. If he was sentenced to 20 years, he'll do most of those 20 years.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by jonhendry18 on Sunday June 17, 2018 @03:30AM (#17331303)
Federal prison does do time off for good behavior. 54 days off per year, so a 20 year sentence would at best be cut to about 17 years.

If you have a life sentence you're not eligible.

Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by cf498 on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:24PM (#17329188)
I just recently learned about the parole system in the US, do I understand it correctly, that he wouldnt be allowed to leave the country until the 20 years are up?
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by tylersmith on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:54PM (#17329365)
Most likely yes that is correct. I'm not a lawyer but I think it's _possible_ a judge could allow them to leave the country but I doubt they frequently do allow that. Often they're restricted much more precisely than nationwide.

How does it work outside the US? Is there no parole or do they typically allow you to leave the country?

Edit: said bail instead of parole

Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by Buge on Saturday June 16, 2018 @05:21PM (#17329496)
I'm pretty sure bail is different than parole. Bail comes before sentencing, parole comes after the jail/prison time.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by tylersmith on Saturday June 16, 2018 @05:28PM (#17329531)
Thanks, I meant parole.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by cf498 on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:56PM (#17329376)
Does it end with the initial sentence or can it be longer?
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by tylersmith on Saturday June 16, 2018 @05:02PM (#17329406)
No, they won't extend the initial sentence unless he commits another crime (then it's technically a different sentence). The worst that can happen is you get denied parole all the way up to your full initial sentence and then you're let out.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by cf498 on Saturday June 16, 2018 @05:50PM (#17329661)
Thanks for your explanation, that part was unclear to me.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by throwawayjava on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:37PM (#17329258)
Alternative advice: don't become a drug dealer.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by pstuart on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:40PM (#17329273)
Those drugs aren’t gonna sell themselves
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by forapurpose on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:07PM (#17329097)
That's quite an attitude toward international travel, something practiced by millions of people for business and pleasure every day.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by pjc50 on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:41PM (#17329277)
Always read the small print. Every now and again someone forgets that other countries can be quite different. Drugs policies are the usual one e.g. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/7801410/Dubai-...

.. but it's also possible to become an accidental tourist in someone else's civil war. Or, in the case of this guy, forget that committing crimes internationally can make you wanted in the US.

Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by cf498 on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:11PM (#17329123)
Who hopefully keep in mind the consequences. You (hopefully) wouldnt travel to Somalia, the fact that other countries arent in headlines doesnt mean they are a safe destination.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by nine_k on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:32PM (#17329226)
Few of them run major criminal operations. Hence the presumption of safety when traveling to "safe and civilized" countries.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by deltateam on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:41PM (#17329280)
> I had female friends talking about going to holiday in Dubai

You get a 1-dimensional perspective every time something local goes wrong and is masqueraded as international news. Its like if a civil rights violation from one US city on any given day was elevated to the world stage. It would sound like much more of a nightmare than anything going on in the UAE.

Most females I've talked to absolutely love Dubai and Abu Dhabi. Even people that have moved there.

The best analogy to the experience is Disney World. Lots of thrills, and adult sexual behavior is stifled, except for minor infractions instead of simply thrown out of the park you'll be thrown in a horrible prison.

The fact of the matter is that you're not one of the slaves. That side of things won't be your experience.

You hope you don't get sexually assaulted and judicially victim blamed, and thats the same anywhere.

Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by mnm1 on Sunday June 17, 2018 @12:04AM (#17330815)
Dubai is not safe for anyone to visit. You can have a microscopic spec of cannabis on your shoe or three poppy seeds and you get years in jail. That's not at all like everywhere else. In fact, it's laws like these that typically get places labeled uncivilized and barbaric. In Dubai's case I think the slavery, oppression of women, and other laws typically fulfill that label even better. No place with such laws is a place I would visit or encourage anyone to visit. Who knows what other stupid laws they will try to enforce on unsuspecting travelers who don't even know they are in violation?

https://newsone.com/409392/brit-jailed-in-dubai-for-4-years-...

Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by newfoundglory on Saturday June 16, 2018 @05:24PM (#17329511)
Most women I know wouldn't go there - including myself. Maybe we run in different circles.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by sundvor on Saturday June 16, 2018 @09:00PM (#17330363)
Yeah, you read about women reporting rape, then being jailed for extramarital sex, and realise that ... no, just no.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by deltateam on Monday June 18, 2018 @10:43AM (#17338611)
Its like if a civil rights violation from one US city on any given day was elevated to the world stage. It would sound like much more of a nightmare than anything going on in the UAE.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by sundvor on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @12:10AM (#17343763)
Point.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by momentmaker on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:58PM (#17329385)
You should check out #tagyoursponsor to realize why they like it there so much.
Re:Dark Web Drug Vendor Pleads Guilty After Feds Traced His ... by deltateam on Saturday June 16, 2018 @05:00PM (#17329393)
#noteverywoman

#notevenmost