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Re:UPS’s $20B Problem: Operations Stuck in the 20th Century by neonate on Saturday June 16, 2018 @02:46PM (#17328722)
Re:UPS’s $20B Problem: Operations Stuck in the 20th Century by ajnin on Saturday June 16, 2018 @08:23PM (#17330249)
For some reason this links redirects me to a blog article about a dispute between archive.is and their registrar. Replacing .li by .is works.
Re:UPS’s $20B Problem: Operations Stuck in the 20th Century by tofu8 on Saturday June 16, 2018 @03:33PM (#17328918)
I can't access this link (ERR_NAME_RESOLUTION_FAILED). Anyone else having the same problem?
Re:UPS’s $20B Problem: Operations Stuck in the 20th Century by curiousgal on Saturday June 16, 2018 @03:40PM (#17328952)
You're having DNS issues.
Re:UPS’s $20B Problem: Operations Stuck in the 20th Century by __float on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:22PM (#17329177)
1.1.1.1 is giving SERVFAIL but 8.8.8.8 is handling it just fine.
Re:UPS’s $20B Problem: Operations Stuck in the 20th Century by tyfon on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:50PM (#17329339)
I really want a setting on my HN account to filter out paywalled articles from the front page.
Re:UPS’s $20B Problem: Operations Stuck in the 20th Century by LateRuin on Saturday June 16, 2018 @08:15PM (#17330224)
With any WSJ article, just open twitter and copy&paste the title. Any link to WSJ from twitter will get around the paywall -- even tweets from the official WSJ twitter account.

here ya go: https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1007786098859413504

Re:UPS’s $20B Problem: Operations Stuck in the 20th Century by hotdog97 on Saturday June 16, 2018 @02:52PM (#17328745)
Is there a list of which paywalled sites this awesome tool is capable of handling?

(Seems to be the same as archive.is)

Re:UPS’s $20B Problem: Operations Stuck in the 20th Century by 21 on Saturday June 16, 2018 @03:41PM (#17328954)
I think we should have a website or something where you put in a pay-walled URL, and it does whatever trick or redirects you where-ever you can see it.

Like SciHub basically.

Re:UPS’s $20B Problem: Operations Stuck in the 20th Century by Baeocystin on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:14PM (#17329134)
The Chrome extension Unpaywall does exactly that.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/unpaywall/iplffkdp...

It doesn't bat 1.000, of course, but it is successful often enough to be useful.

Re:UPS’s $20B Problem: Operations Stuck in the 20th Century by hotdog97 on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:21PM (#17329176)
I was thinking of creating something similar for all of those US news sites that have blocked EU-based readers from accessing their sites out of a mostly unfounded panic. (PS: love your HN username.)
Re:UPS’s $20B Problem: Operations Stuck in the 20th Century by briandear on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:36PM (#17329247)
So all those US sites are just ignorant? They didn’t have lawyers actually advising them? They just unilaterally shut off access to millions of people out of an abundance of caution? “Unfounded panic” isn’t a business strategy and any non-trivial business is going to operate from legal advice. Obviously, the risk is real enough: the threat of 5% of global earnings is a pretty big incentive to be extremely cautious when dealing with an EU that has a huge financial incentive to go after large American companies.

I wouldn’t run my business with the “hope” that regulators are benevolent. If the media publishes a story critical of a country’s government, what’s to stop them from using GDPR as the basis for a very expensive witchhunt? Even if you have done everything correctly, there is still a significant compliance risk.

It isn’t the compliance itself that is problematic — it’s the compliance risk you subject yourself to when serving Europe. Given most news organizations are hanging by a thread financially, one bit of back luck from an aggressive regulator could destroy the business.

It’s the same reason many European banks have refused to service American customers: the FATCA compliance risk.

Re:UPS’s $20B Problem: Operations Stuck in the 20th Century by hotdog97 on Saturday June 16, 2018 @05:09PM (#17329436)
> They didn’t have lawyers actually advising them? They just unilaterally shut off access to millions of people out of an abundance of caution?

Those two statements are not mutually exclusive. I think they did have lawyers who advised them. They concluded that the potential risk is larger than the gain (in ads - europeans love their privacy and adblockers; and ad rates are comparatively quite low outside of the UK).

One, I think they should have hired european lawyers for this.

Two, comparing with the FATCA risk is amusing.

Re:UPS’s $20B Problem: Operations Stuck in the 20th Century by briandear on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:29PM (#17329214)
How do the writers of the articles get paid if everyone bypasses paywalls? They aren’t like musicians that make most of their money touring and their recorded music is more of a show-marketing tool. Most writers are almost anonymous.

I’m just having a hard time understanding the ethics of this.

Re:UPS’s $20B Problem: Operations Stuck in the 20th Century by hotdog97 on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:46PM (#17329313)
Well, if a particular news site blocks europeans I would guess they are not expecting any kind of revenue from there.

I find it hard argue against a service that unblocks this kind of news site for europeans from an ethical POV. Copyright law is of course different, but it was you who introduced the ethics aspect.

Re:UPS’s $20B Problem: Operations Stuck in the 20th Century by sudouser on Saturday June 16, 2018 @03:55PM (#17329030)
check outline.com
Re:UPS’s $20B Problem: Operations Stuck in the 20th Century by hotdog97 on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:23PM (#17329184)
That site does work great with WSJ.