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Re:Ask HN: How do you manage your manager? by noir_lord on Friday June 15, 2018 @11:16AM (#17320309)
> If you've ever said "this isn't my job" then you will have only an adversarial relationship.

I say that all the time to other managers and occasionally to my direct manager.

I'm the only software engineer on staff and we have a pisspoor IT provider, if it's windows I don't touch it because if I do I'll 'own' it and I'm busy enough.

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Re:Ask HN: How do you manage your manager? by spenczar5 on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:47PM (#17322409)
That sounds pretty adversarial, you may have demonstrated GP’s argument.
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Re:Ask HN: How do you manage your manager? by noir_lord on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:12PM (#17322650)
Learning to say no when it's not in your interests isn't adversarial, as an old boss put it pithily "If you don't respect your time no one else will".

I was hired to write software, we pay a third party for desktop IT, if I then start doing IT technician tasks I'd be the most overpaid IT technician in the country and we'd still be paying for support.

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