Funny to hear it framed that way, because most of the flat earth trolls - if you can get them to admit to their game - do it to mess with people who take it on faith that the existence of system means that it can produce results. The general person over-assumes "science's" ability to deliver all the time.
Maybe the Earth really is round, but everyone believes bullshit published in $newspaper about $research because "science said so" rather than reading and evaluating the research paper, all the time. We know damn well that the the news is going to misrepresent findings, but once it gets into meme machine called journalistic narrative everyone starts taking it on faith.
See also: the 'sun is cold' troll and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFPtjXFfczM
...and yet the same people place absolute faith in arguments supporting the flat earth merely because it defies orthodoxy, and also believe the pseudo-scientific rationales behind them.
As tempting as it may be to then pivot from my statements here and snark about people of a religious mindset different than yours, or ethical or political mindset different than yours, bear in mind that many such people engage with the world just fine. The sort of thing that we actually call mental illness is a qualitative cut above that sort of thing.
Ultimately, the message was that thoughts and feelings of mentally impaired people do have no bearing on their illness, or if it did, you wouldn't care. Then why comment, if you don't care?
No, you did. I said they were either deliberately playing or mentally ill, and that you must take that into account if you want to understand. It's the opposite of calling people morons. That was something you brought to this discussion.
Edit: I mean, sure, you show some interest, hence my question was actually honest. I didn't expect an honest answer given the attitude, but I had to ask.
2. Trying to make the claim that this word is completely innocuous, is very unbelievable unless we are to assume you are typing this from a wormhole into the past before this entered mainstream vocabulary.
3. If you were attempting to use the term in a more clinical fashion, you've completely failed to apply it correctly.
This is where it becomes obvious that you think that mentally ill -- the way you used it -- was completely innocuous, objectively true. Hence I might as well, by your own standards, call you a moron, or at least mentally ill, until the opposite is proven. That is, you might indeed be a Psychologist, and not an impostor, but otherwise your use of the term in a more clinical fashion is likewise incorrectly applied, very very likely. Sure this discussion is a waste of your time, if you are an idiot who doesn't understand "these people". PS: This is fun, blaming other people for their faults,not very helpful, but certainly fun getting a sense of superiority. I'm sure you are trying to say the right thing, but between lack of qualification and even contradicting yourself, you didn't, I'm sorry.
E.g. a lot of the presented arguments presuppose an understanding of geometry, and that it applies to our universe. But for most people, that amounts to trusting mathematicians and physicists, which is in turn founded on trust in the scientific system and ultimately logic itself.