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Re:Elon Musk’s Boring Co. Wins Chicago Airport High-Speed Tr... by abainbridge on Thursday June 14, 2018 @04:52AM (#17310331)
I see a lot of parallels between Elon and Isambard Kingdom Brunel's careers.

Brunel was an excellent marketeer who consistently over-promised and under delivered. He also drove technology forward more than anyone else of his generation.

When Brunel was making the Great Western Railway, he decided to survey the route himself because he felt the existing surveyors were slow, expensive and crap. He did this on horseback. During the process he concluded that the horses he was hiring were slow, expensive and crap, so he started his own horse hire company. Somehow, despite this insanity, we got a railway, and it was good.

Disclaimer: it's twenty years since I read a Brunel biography. I might have some of the details a bit wrong.

Re:Elon Musk’s Boring Co. Wins Chicago Airport High-Speed Tr... by andygates on Thursday June 14, 2018 @06:59AM (#17310729)
...then again, his Atmospheric Railway was a glorious expensive failure. An evacuated tube carried a piston pushed by the atmospheric pressure behind it (hence the name). The piston had a connecting rod to attach a carriage. Quiet, clean, lovely.

Pumping houses along the route made vacuum for each leg. It was a great idea, but materials science wasn't up to it: the seals kept cracking in the sea air and rats ate the leather skirt that kept vacuum round the piston rod. It was out of service a lot, and was soon abandoned for traditional railway.

I don't want Musk's implementation of a spitball idea that's been going round for ages to be like that, but I can't help wondering...

Re:Elon Musk’s Boring Co. Wins Chicago Airport High-Speed Tr... by user9182031 on Thursday June 14, 2018 @10:12AM (#17311787)
From Wikipedia.. "It is often asserted among enthusiasts' groups that the primary cause of the failure of the leather flap was rats, attracted to the tallow, gnawing at it. Although rats are said to have been drawn into the traction pipe in the early days, there was no reference to this at the crisis meeting described above."
Re:Elon Musk’s Boring Co. Wins Chicago Airport High-Speed Tr... by abainbridge on Thursday June 14, 2018 @04:57AM (#17310354)
Also on that project, he designed a brick arch bridge that everyone thought was too low profile to stay up. It's still there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maidenhead_Railway_Bridge
Re:Elon Musk’s Boring Co. Wins Chicago Airport High-Speed Tr... by taneq on Thursday June 14, 2018 @06:08AM (#17310562)
> When Brunel was making the Great Western Railway, he decided to survey the route himself because he felt the existing surveyors were slow, expensive and crap. He did this on horseback. During the process he concluded that the horses he was hiring were slow, expensive and crap, so he started his own horse hire company. Somehow, despite this insanity...

Was he wrong on those counts?

Re:Elon Musk’s Boring Co. Wins Chicago Airport High-Speed Tr... by abainbridge on Thursday June 14, 2018 @06:51AM (#17310704)
I think it is hard to tell. I guess he just had more drive and energy than everyone he depended on, so replacing them with himself was often a win. I like to imagine the metal struggle he went through we he decided the animal feed he was getting was sub-standard and thought about designing a steam powered tractor and buying a field: too much latency, gotta survey this god-damn route today.
Re:Elon Musk’s Boring Co. Wins Chicago Airport High-Speed Tr... by jacobolus on Thursday June 14, 2018 @04:53AM (#17310336)
*Brunel
Re:Elon Musk’s Boring Co. Wins Chicago Airport High-Speed Tr... by abainbridge on Thursday June 14, 2018 @04:58AM (#17310362)
Oh dear. Very sorry. Now fixed. Thanks.