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Re:Apple to Close iPhone Security Hole That Police Use to Cr... by natch on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @09:27PM (#17308535)
Why would they ever want to?

Imagine the conversation if Veedrac was running the show at Apple.

Saudi Police: "We need the key to this user's phone because they are suspected of having a video of their own gay sex and we want to prove it and if they are guilty of gay sex, we will give the user 60 lashes and then execute them and their partner by chopping off their heads with a sword."

Veedrac: "Oh, OK, yes here you go, here is a single secure key on a one time basis so you can get the user's video and kill them."

Do you really think this is a great scenario, that Apple wants to actively enable by spending money and effort on their designs to make it happen?

Re:Apple to Close iPhone Security Hole That Police Use to Cr... by Veedrac on Thursday June 14, 2018 @04:49AM (#17310324)
Well I don't think I've ever been caricatured as homophobic before, that's one for the books.
Re:Apple to Close iPhone Security Hole That Police Use to Cr... by natch on Thursday June 14, 2018 @06:31AM (#17310641)
The comment wasn’t saying that you are homophobic. Just that you were being foolishly naive in advocating a system that would enable evil regimes including, for example, homophobic ones, to more effectively practice some of their most egregious human rights violating behaviors.
Re:Apple to Close iPhone Security Hole That Police Use to Cr... by Veedrac on Thursday June 14, 2018 @08:12AM (#17311022)
And did you actually think about how such a risk might be handled, instead of (as I suspect you did) immediately jumping to strawman and slander the other side? It took me roughly 30 seconds to think of an approach that prevents overreach from foreign powers, I strongly suspect Apple can afford spending 5 minutes.
Re:Apple to Close iPhone Security Hole That Police Use to Cr... by natch on Thursday June 14, 2018 @12:32PM (#17312884)
Foreign powers aren’t the only problem. Leaked keys, domestic powers, small town corrupt sheriffs, corrupt US Presidents, are also problems. You think you have managed in 30 seconds to overturn the thinking of the entire credible security community.

Let’s hear your approach then. Don’t be coy.

Re:Apple to Close iPhone Security Hole That Police Use to Cr... by Veedrac on Thursday June 14, 2018 @05:52PM (#17315744)
I have given a suggestion elsewhere in this thread. This will be my last post here, though.
Re:Apple to Close iPhone Security Hole That Police Use to Cr... by natch on Friday June 15, 2018 @10:57AM (#17320192)
The suggestion where others already poked holes in it and pointed out the obvious flaws for you... ok then Veedrac.