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Re:Sexual harassment is rife in the sciences, finds landmark... by setr on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @04:32PM (#17306678)
From what I remember, she slept with multiple reviewers, and the whole thing became public when her boyfriend at the time complained online about being cheated on; I also remember there being quite a bit of controversy over the general illegitimatecy of game reviews, and that both parties were attacking each other on totally different arguments. The pro-gamergates claiming it was about corruption of the industry, and the anti-gamergates claiming it was an attack on women in video games.

Thats what I understood from my far-away vantage point, at least. But its difficult to imagine it was just the latter; there's not enough sexism in gaming for it to blow up so easily, I think. (She was hardly the first woman in gaming to operate unethically).

Re:Sexual harassment is rife in the sciences, finds landmark... by crooked-v on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @04:38PM (#17306723)
> she slept with multiple reviewers

That's a false accusation.

What actually happened was that an angry ex-boyfriend accused her of sleeping with a gaming journalist to get positive reviews. No such positive reviews ever happened. The journalist in question made a single off-handed mention of one of her games (in a non-review context) before they'd ever actually met in person.

Re:Sexual harassment is rife in the sciences, finds landmark... by hueving on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @04:45PM (#17306770)
>That's a false accusation.

The phrase you're looking for is "unfounded accusation". Unless you are the woman in question or you were stalking her 24/7, you can't falsify it.

Re:Sexual harassment is rife in the sciences, finds landmark... by crooked-v on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @04:50PM (#17306814)
I am reasonably confident calling it flatly false at this point, given the absurd amount of fine-detail combing over of Zoe Quinn's life done by her harrassers that's still never come up with anything real to present.
Re:Sexual harassment is rife in the sciences, finds landmark... by makomk on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @06:37PM (#17307587)
It's neither of those things. It's not the accusation that was made at all; the original claim was that she slept with a reviewer who gave her game positive coverage. The entire gaming press debunked this based on the technicality that it wasn't actually a review, but that wasn't the claim that was going around. Supposedly they also weren't technically in that kind of relationship until shortly after the press coverage, but that went down less well as a counter-argument for obvious reasons.

(This also wasn't the focus of the original blog post at all. To cut a decades-long story short, the reason that particular aspect caught people's attention was because there were a whole bunch of people who already very strongly distrusted the entire gaming press for reasons entirely unrelated to women. Then Reddit started shadowbanning anyone who mentioned the journo's name, hosters were pressured to shut down sites which covered it, the entire gaming press declared gamers as a whole misogynistic scum over it, and every escalation fanned the flames more in typical Streisand-effect fashion. In fact I don't think it was even mentioned in the blog at all, but I could be wrong.)

Re:Sexual harassment is rife in the sciences, finds landmark... by themaninthedark on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @06:08PM (#17307422)
It may have been before they met in person but they had been very friendly with each other. So much in fact that the journalist had beta tested the game for her and was put in the credits for doing so.

https://www.mobygames.com/game/browser/depression-quest/cred...

Re:Sexual harassment is rife in the sciences, finds landmark... by vertex-four on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @04:39PM (#17306732)
There is no evidence that anybody reviewed her after she slept with them, let alone that they were biased by it.

Her boyfriend mentions multiple incidences of cheating in the post, but only one appears to be with a reviewer.

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Re:Sexual harassment is rife in the sciences, finds landmark... by vertex-four on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @04:57PM (#17306871)
People can be video game reviewers without reviewing any specific video game.
Re:Sexual harassment is rife in the sciences, finds landmark... by washadjeffmad on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @04:59PM (#17306886)
Since entertainment reviews across every industry have by and large become another component in whitewashed marketing, it's not really much of a distinction to make between tacit promotion by a reviewer and their review.

When Weinstein told casting directors that actresses that rebuffed him were difficult to work with and promoted to films of those that didn't, I'm sure his biases weren't as transparent in light of his professional reputation. Was that not a breach of ethics on multiple fronts?

Re:Sexual harassment is rife in the sciences, finds landmark... by vertex-four on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @05:14PM (#17307006)
I’m not entirely sure what you’re on about - barely anyone went after Nathan Grayson after the reveal of the alleged incident. Isn’t he the one who supposedly breached reviewing ethics through some mythical article?
Re:Sexual harassment is rife in the sciences, finds landmark... by themaninthedark on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @06:45PM (#17307660)
Gamergate went after Kotaku and tried to get them to do something about Nathan Grayson's conduct.

http://deepfreeze.it/outlet.php?o=Kotaku

At some point one of Kotaku's editors(maybe, its been a while) stated that there were no ethical violations.

Gamergate then worked to boycott Kotaku and get advertisers to move away from the site.

Re:Sexual harassment is rife in the sciences, finds landmark... by crooked-v on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @05:14PM (#17307004)
There was a single case of a journalist who mentioned one of Zoe Quinn's games in an article... before they had ever actually met. I fail to see the ethical breach there.
Re:Sexual harassment is rife in the sciences, finds landmark... by gamblor956 on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @05:47PM (#17307279)
It wasn't just an ethical breach, it was a felony. And he is now being investigated for rape in NYC and LA, and being sued for breach of contract and various other torts.

A great many people in Hollywood began to ignore Weinstein's claims after they became public (to the industry) knowledge, though this was unfortunately too late for some of his earlier victims like Asia Argento and Annabella Sciorra.

Re:Sexual harassment is rife in the sciences, finds landmark... by Frondo on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @05:05PM (#17306934)
Whoever or however many people she's slept with is also very much between her and her partners -- bringing it out into the public is a boundary overstep and violation of her privacy.

Slut-shaming is a bad thing and we would all do well to move past it asap.

Re:Sexual harassment is rife in the sciences, finds landmark... by magduf on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @05:26PM (#17307099)
If she's sleeping around with people who have nothing to do with the gaming industry, then sure, it's irrelevant. If she's sleeping with game reviewers who then review her games, it looks like a quid pro quo situation. Of course, there doesn't seem to be any good evidence this actually happened from what I read, but if it were true, then it's not slut-shaming.
Re:Sexual harassment is rife in the sciences, finds landmark... by PhasmaFelis on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @04:51PM (#17306823)
I'm afraid you've been lied to. There's some details in my other post. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17306626