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Re:Macedonia Agrees to Change Its Name to End Bitter Dispute... by Keyframe on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @03:49PM (#17297303)
Not the greatest analogy, considering both the greek region and the republic were both part of ancient kingdom of Macedonia, and neither modern instance has (much of) any continuity link to ancient Macedonia.

I was there last year. It's a great country to visit as a tourist. There are much political issues still at large there. With Greece, there's that dispute over who has 'the right' to Macedonia. IMO, neither. There was no Greece and there was no (republic) Macedonia back then. There's an argument about language I've heard, that is that Macedonians spoke Greek. Could be, but things change. It's not like local populace disappeared when Slavs rode in. History is complex, yo and it's in no ones interest to bicker over it.

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Re:Macedonia Agrees to Change Its Name to End Bitter Dispute... by conmarap on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @08:20PM (#17299250)
Greece didn't exist as a united country, but for Alexander the Great, who spent his school years in Athens, and tried to unite all Greek states into one Hellenic country, yes, the history belongs to the Greeks and not a Slavic tribe that found itself in the region 900 years later. Not to mention that they were given a written language by the Greeks of the Byzantine empire.
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Re:Macedonia Agrees to Change Its Name to End Bitter Dispute... by Keyframe on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @06:26AM (#17301826)
What I'm saying is that I'm not convinced modern greeks are the same as those 2500 years ago. Lots of things happened, people moved, shuffled, ottoman empire was there for 500+ years, etc. In same way, I'm not convinced Macedonia vas vacated, completely void of people, and settled by slavs ezclusively.
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Re:Macedonia Agrees to Change Its Name to End Bitter Dispute... by toasterlovin on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @09:42AM (#17302928)
I don’t know about Greece specifically, but the modern population of Italy are descendants of Italians from Roman times. There has been no population turnover to speak of. I would expect the situation in Greece to be similar; I’m not aware of any historical instances of wholesale genocide and migration there...
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Re:Macedonia Agrees to Change Its Name to End Bitter Dispute... by dotancohen on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @04:19PM (#17306584)
Then you should go look at a modern Turk standing next to a modern Greek. They were considered the same people before WWI, and have little diverged since.
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Re:Macedonia Agrees to Change Its Name to End Bitter Dispute... by conmarap on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @10:00AM (#17355370)
> and have little diverged since

You clearly know nothing about the differences between the two people. Turks are very different from Greeks on even the level of "looks," let alone culture.

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Re:Macedonia Agrees to Change Its Name to End Bitter Dispute... by toasterlovin on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @05:28PM (#17307116)
Sorry, I don't understand the point you're trying to make.
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