Re:Spanish football league defends phone 'spying'
by Quarrelsome on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @06:57AM
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could I as a fan not use a similar justification to tap phones of executives and agents to locate cases of gouging and fraud to prevent "costing the fans an estimated x million euros" through inflated ticket prices?
Re:Spanish football league defends phone 'spying'
by oh_sigh on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @03:45PM
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That's a bad one I agree. I think a better argument for enforcing their rights is the fact that if they don't, they are effectively punishing establishments that actually do pay to license the broadcast.
Re:Spanish football league defends phone 'spying'
by admax88q on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @04:21PM
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> I think a better argument for enforcing their rights
I don't think anyone is arguing that they shouldn't be enforcing their rights. But that they shouldn't use use people's phones as listening devices to do so.
Re:Spanish football league defends phone 'spying'
by oh_sigh on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @05:21PM
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Yes, but OP took umbrage to how the estimated losses were calculated, and a statement like:
> The broadcasting of football matches in public places without a paid licence cost the game an estimated 150 euros (£132; $177) a year, it said.
would not be anywhere near as convincing as a statement with monetary values multiplied by a million. Focusing on the unfairness of what unlicensed streamers are doing avoids that issue.
Sounds suspiciously familiar to the way questionable data have been represented about money lost due to piracy in other industries (software, movies, music). I am very skeptical about those types of claims.