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Re:American toddlers are eating more sugar than the amount r... by mijamo on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @06:52AM (#17292143)
Why pointing "Northern" Europe rather than Europe in general ?

From my experience, I would say you find more and better vegetables in Southern Europe. And Eastern Europe is quite similar to Northern Europe in terms of accessibility and choice (probably still better in quality though).

And South America in my opinion is rather poor in vegetables (but fantastic in fruits!). They can grow perfectly there but people just don't seem to eat them much, apart from a few specific ones. But they do cook at least.

One final factor is also the price of restaurants. In South America and Asia many people just eat at restaurants/cafeteria/whatever local street food you find all the time because it is not expensive at all. And not super healthy. Doing that in Sweden or Norway would lead you to ruin very very fast (and also street food is obviously less popular when it's freezing outside so it doesn't help developing a street food culture).

Re:American toddlers are eating more sugar than the amount r... by adwww on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @06:59AM (#17292174)
> Why pointing "Northern" Europe rather than Europe in general ?

I assumed because it's suprising how much worse the American diet is, even compared to countries with similar Western diets, incomes and lifestyles (UK, IE, DE, NL etc).

Re:American toddlers are eating more sugar than the amount r... by beaconstudios on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @07:58AM (#17292455)
all of those countries are in Western Europe though. Northern Europe is primarily Scandinavia.
Re:American toddlers are eating more sugar than the amount r... by Symbiote on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @11:28AM (#17294194)
Britain and Ireland are Northern Europe by various definitions, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_geoscheme_for_E...
Re:American toddlers are eating more sugar than the amount r... by beaconstudios on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @12:26PM (#17294852)
that seems like a weird decision given Britain & Ireland are more culturally tied with Western Europe. It looks like the UN made that grouping for "statistical convenience" rather than cultural identity though, whatever that means.
Re:American toddlers are eating more sugar than the amount r... by Symbiote on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @02:48AM (#17300831)
That's debatable.

Especially in Northern England and Scotland, its not difficult to see things that are culturally closer to Scandinavia.

Re:American toddlers are eating more sugar than the amount r... by beaconstudios on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @04:56AM (#17301409)
I think we'll have to agree to disagree on that one - I live in Northern England and half my family are Scottish, and I can't really see the cultural similarities with Scandinavia.
Re:American toddlers are eating more sugar than the amount r... by Symbiote on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @09:33AM (#17302853)
I live in Denmark, but I'm from the English Midlands, with family from the North and South.

Food: roast meats with gravy and (if pork) crackling, pickled herring and other preserved fish, cranachan / rød grød med fløde or rice pudding / risalamande. The strong flavours of whisky are closer to aquavit than a cognac or brandy. Beer, especially in excess.

Traditions: maypole dancing, woollen clothes. Guising is similar to some fastelavn activities.

Poor weather including long nights for many months; leads to a more indoor, cosy culture and excitement at summer.

More feeling of equality between people, not being better than other people.

Long history of trade and cultural links across the North Sea, from the Viking age to the present.

Re:American toddlers are eating more sugar than the amount r... by beaconstudios on Friday June 15, 2018 @08:19AM (#17319180)
I can certainly agree with some of those similarities but most of them I would attribute to the weather combined with a generally working class culture (at least in the North of England, not sure about Scandinavia). As I understand it, prizing roast meats goes back to its rare availability to working class people from the industrial era (where Yorkshire at least derives much of its modern culture). Beer is common to working class areas and whiskey to cold areas. Woollen clothes help with the cold. Social egalitarianism is more of a working class thing.

Not to say there aren't links, there certainly are, but I wouldn't say they are strongly culturally bound compared to our relationship with Western Europe.

Re:American toddlers are eating more sugar than the amount r... by ricardobeat on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @12:40PM (#17295007)
Meant to say Western Europe, still haven't internalized these divisions... in fact I have the impression Sweden, Norway and the UK have a somewhat stronger fast-food presence than other parts of europe, but the bit on food variety still applies.

In Brazil at least, the variety of vegetables, and especially fruit, is surprisingly limited for a place so sunny and rich in nature; but you do get a lot of stuff you won't find anywhere else, and it's very easy, and relatively cheap to have a healthy meal if you know where to look. The most common type of street restaurant is an all-you-can-eat buffet, which offer a ton of fresh food of all kinds. I miss this a lot, the rest of the world seems content with pre-assembled dishes everywhere.