Re:Birth Rates Dropped Most in U.S. Counties Where Home Pric...
by kgwgk on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @04:16AM
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And my point is that an “everything else being equal” argument about the income and spending of an individual is not particularly useful when discussing demographic issues.
Re:Birth Rates Dropped Most in U.S. Counties Where Home Pric...
by sidrajaram on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @10:12AM
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Yes, the cost of things is more expensive in dense cities, but by 2x-3x for some services and not at all for buying a pair of jeans from a retailer - those prices are pretty much uniform everywhere, modulo state/local taxes. I'll argue that one's quality of life is better in SV on $250k vs $70k in the rural midwest or $100k in a midwestern city - obviously this will depend on spending patterns, which depends on personal preferences. But for me, it's a conscious decision to make more and spend more on a west coast city.
Re:Birth Rates Dropped Most in U.S. Counties Where Home Pric...
by Retric on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @07:41AM
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The problem is you need more space after having kids. If your already spending 75% of your income on rent adding another room is not feasible.
Or more basically you need a significant surplus to be able to afford kids.
Re:Birth Rates Dropped Most in U.S. Counties Where Home Pric...
by nickrivadeneira on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @09:11AM
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That entirely depends on the income level you're talking, which is the OP's point. If you're making $10 mil and spending $7.5 mil on housing, you probably already have enough rooms to have kids. And even if you didn't, you could surely find room in your remaining $2.5 mil to add a room onto your house or find a slightly bigger place. This obviously does not apply if you're making $50k... Hence why absolutes are relevant.
Re:Birth Rates Dropped Most in U.S. Counties Where Home Pric...
by Retric on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @09:51AM
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You are assuming that 7.5 million buys a multi room home. At the extreme it may only rent you a 350 square foot apartment.
Some people might spend 75% of their income on massive dwellings, but most people downsize if possible before going past 55% of income. And as we are talking about things on the social not individual level those preferences matter.
I think the point GP is trying to make, is that it matters more if you can afford in absolute dollars to have a family on whatever is left when you're done paying rent, not what the percentage is.