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Re:The Scooter Economy by dilap on Monday June 11, 2018 @10:47AM (#17284660)
the point is it's silly to complain about the "eyesore" of scooters when you've already accepted insanely higher impositions from cars. cars actually kill people! they have hugely detrimental effects on air quality! they take up tons of space, way more than scooters ever could. the factr that the space has been "officially deemed ok" is irrelevent.

http://nordic.businessinsider.com/contentassets/15ba9de498c2...

Re:The Scooter Economy by laughinghan on Monday June 11, 2018 @11:10AM (#17284893)
This is all true, but one problem that is not widespread is cars strewn all over the sidewalk. The aesthetic problem that you mention is indeed minor; the accessibility problem for people in wheelchairs is not.

Cars have all the problems you’ve mentioned and more and I’m also dissatisfied with how much public space we’ve set aside for them, but they also mostly stay off sidewalks and wait at street crossings, so at least we’ve also set aside space for pedestrians to get from one place to another that is usable even for those in wheelchairs.

Re:The Scooter Economy by nouveaux on Monday June 11, 2018 @11:29AM (#17285085)
I'm sure cars parked in undesirable places before regulation. I would support taking away street parking in favor of bikes and scooters.
Re:The Scooter Economy by morogop on Monday June 11, 2018 @11:00AM (#17284794)
"We've accepted one thing that turned out to be bad; so we must accept all future bad things".

This is a snarky but accurate restatement of your (commonly professed) belief.

Re:The Scooter Economy by dilap on Monday June 11, 2018 @02:31PM (#17287011)
but the scooters function in large part as as a replacement for cars. so it's replacing something with lots of problems with something with fewer problems. it's a net win.

i do agree having regs to dissuade people from blocking & riding on the sidewalk with scooters seems very reasonable.

once you have that i think scooters are basically problem free (except for maybe aesthetic concerns).

even w/o that, i still don't see how anyone reasonable could think scooters were anywhere near the top of the list of hazards of sf streets.

(perhaps they are a major inconvenience for wheelchair users?; i'd be interested in any first-hand accounts.)

Re:The Scooter Economy by fifnir on Monday June 11, 2018 @11:15AM (#17284939)
"Why do we keep accepting this ridiculously bad thing if we are now conscious of bad things?"