The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official

Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by hokumguru on Monday June 11, 2018 @10:25AM (#17284464)

But you do pay the water company based on how much water you use. Why shouldn't certain providers like, say, Netflix, not have to pay more when they use nearly 40% of the pipe? (https://variety.com/2015/digital/news/netflix-bandwidth-usag...).

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Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by croon on Monday June 11, 2018 @11:09AM (#17284881)

Netflix only uses 40% of the pipe if the ISP consumers request their data. ISPs are already paid by their consumers to provide them their requested data.

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Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by tenaciousDaniel on Monday June 11, 2018 @11:30AM (#17285089)

Exactly. How hard is this to understand? The cost is already being met by consumers.

It's like if a football stadium was located near a tollway, and the tollway decided to start charging the stadium itself during sporting events.

That's not a legitimate business transaction, it's a cash grab.

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Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by imgabe on Monday June 11, 2018 @10:46AM (#17284644)

Does Netflix not pay bandwidth charges to their ISP where their services are hosted? AWS, right? Is Amazon giving them free bandwidth? I'd think probably not.

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Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by Nelson69 on Monday June 11, 2018 @03:53PM (#17287923)

What about all the ISPs in between? They don't get an opportunity to charge you and Netflix...

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Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by monocasa on Monday June 11, 2018 @08:10PM (#17289705)

They do through peering agreements.

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Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by calcifer on Monday June 11, 2018 @10:30AM (#17284504)

> But you do pay the water company based on how much water you use.

Yes, I do as the consumer of that water. In this analogy Netflix would be the dam operator, so why would a particular dam pay more to the pipe company than another dam?

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Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by briffle on Monday June 11, 2018 @11:47AM (#17285237)

This is why I like the electricity metaphor for Internet access.

You pay your utility bill every month for electricity (probably a base rate, and a fixed consumption rate). Does your utility then go to the provider (A local green power source) and demand they pay the utility as well, since 60% of the requests in the region are for their power? (users opting into to green power on their bills?)

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Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by duxup on Monday June 11, 2018 @11:41AM (#17285185)

Netflix does pay for internet usage doesn't it?

So do I.

Sounds like it is already paid.

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Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by blanderman on Monday June 11, 2018 @10:43AM (#17284622)

Because it's the consumer at the endpoint who requests the content and it's their allocated portion of the pipe that's being used.

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Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by 0xfeba on Monday June 11, 2018 @10:44AM (#17284628)

If ISPs want to charge by the byte, that's fine.

What they want though, is to charge data coming in, and data going out.

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Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by Rotten194 on Monday June 11, 2018 @11:15AM (#17284937)

Do you think Netflix gets internet access for free?? They pay for their bandwidth fair and square like everyone else.

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Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by pdonis on Monday June 11, 2018 @02:01PM (#17286732)

My ISP is not Netflix's ISP. Why should my ISP be able to charge Netflix for bandwidth when I am already paying them for the same bandwidth as their customer?

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