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Re:Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new ... by xapata on Saturday June 09, 2018 @01:37PM (#17274029)
> Uber loses money, at most you could argue that it is law breaking AND VC money.

I don't follow the logic. Many companies have negative cash flow while they invest in growth. What is "it" in your sentence? If you're saying there are only two possible factors for the relatively low ride fares, I think you're forgetting the reduction of transaction costs.

Hailing a cab on the street is frustrating. Hailing a cab by phone call even more frustrating and uncertain. Decreasing the transaction cost increases demand, which encourages supply, which lowers cost, which ... Anyway, there's a new equilibrium price.

Re:Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new ... by newfoundglory on Sunday June 10, 2018 @06:19PM (#17280483)
Uber has a low cost because they are not charging you enough to cover their own costs, they are making up the difference with VC money. Any factors that make the cost of providing an Uber lower than the cost of providing a taxi are unimportant because they are not pricing based on the cost. If they had to pay for taxi medallions they could still undercut existing taxis if they wanted to.
Re:Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new ... by xapata on Sunday June 10, 2018 @06:31PM (#17280535)
> not charging you enough to cover their own costs

Are you an Uber employee revealing private information? If not, it seems you're making a big assumption about the proportion of their expenses that are marketing and growth versus steady-state marginal cost.

Amazon didn't make profit for a while and everyone wondered if they could. Oh, it's a low margin business, they'll never be profitable, blah, blah. Turns out they can, in fact, make a bit of money. Maybe Uber and Lyft can, too. Delta can, even though flights are a commodity business.

Re:Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new ... by newfoundglory on Monday June 11, 2018 @04:42AM (#17282762)
wow, you're really attached to this narrative you have, to be so desperately reaching for a reason to discredit the impact of VC money on their operation. I think my previous comments have already said everything relevant about the breakdown of their marketing costs vs steady state marginal costs.
Re:Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new ... by xapata on Monday June 11, 2018 @05:13AM (#17282878)
> really attached to this narrative you have

Oddly enough, I was thinking the same thing.

You've asserted that they're ignoring cost in their pricing, but have provided no evidence for it. Uber and Lyft have claimed to be profitable in their biggest markets. Doesn't that suggest they set prices above marginal cost?

Re:Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new ... by newfoundglory on Monday June 11, 2018 @07:51PM (#17289617)
Wow. They were apparently profitable for two minutes in 2016, might be what you're referring to? I haven't provided any evidence because I assumed you had access to the same real world information as I do, but if you don't have internet I can mail you some stuff.
Re:Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new ... by xapata on Monday June 11, 2018 @09:07PM (#17289980)
You're confusing company aggregate profit for profit within each market.
Re:Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new ... by newfoundglory on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @11:16AM (#17294034)
No, I'm referring to the US market. They have never been profitable overall but for a very brief period in 2016 they claimed that the US operation was profitable.
Re:Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new ... by xapata on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @09:26PM (#17299542)
How about in NYC? Profitable there? I believe they announced that they were.

In any case, even if they're not currently profitable, that may be because of capital expense, not operating costs. Until they go public, it's hard to know.