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Re:When does satire become misinformation? by chrisseaton on Saturday June 09, 2018 @09:38AM (#17272950)
I've no idea why anyone tries to communicate using satire or sarcasm today. It's absolutely begging to be misunderstood, and then it's impossible correct because yes that is literally what you wrote and it's there in black and white. It must be the least clear and most risky way to communicate possible.
Re:When does satire become misinformation? by ghaff on Saturday June 09, 2018 @10:29AM (#17273189)
It's really broader than that. A lot of comedy has always been about skirting close to the edge of appropriateness and good taste. (And maybe going over it a bit.)

As I was discussing with someone in the wake of some of the recent outrage outpourings, the cliff that comedy skirts has become very steep and very public. The joke that bombed in a small nightclub and gets quietly excised from the routine is now all over YouTube and Twitter, perhaps completely out of context.

Or a stupid dongle joke of the sort that I might have rolled my eyes at a coworker making and maybe told them to "give it a rest" years ago now gets people fired because of online outrage.

Re:When does satire become misinformation? by matte_black on Saturday June 09, 2018 @10:35AM (#17273228)
Satire and sarcasm are best used in the company of people who will understand it. It is not for use with the masses.

When someone is sarcastic or uses satire on you, you should take it as a complement, as it means they believe you have the intellectual capacity to grasp the joke, enough to take the risk in telling it to you.

When you respond with sarcasm or satire of your own, it confirms to them that you have found common ground, and that your satire/sarcasm can slowly lift into even higher levels of wit, almost trying to outdo each other.

When someone doesn’t get my satirical jokes, I write them off as a simpleton and use only small, safe jokes with them, if at all.

If you are going to make a sarcastic joke publicly, it is best to also make sure there is some sort of external approval in the form of laughing or upvotes to go along with it, otherwise it can easily be misinterpreted as your own serious opinion.

Re:When does satire become misinformation? by chrisseaton on Saturday June 09, 2018 @11:08AM (#17273374)
> When someone doesn’t get my satirical jokes, I write them off as a simpleton and use only small, safe jokes with them, if at all.

Maybe they go away thinking you're the simpleton for saying something which isn't true or doesn't make any sense? It seems like this is a whole system of snideness designed to judge people and justify being condescending to them. I think it's just unpleasant.