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Re:The EU's Copyright Proposal Is Extremely Bad News for Eve... by tannhaeuser on Friday June 08, 2018 @03:14AM (#17263281)
IMHO it isn't helpful that anti-"copyright"-reform initiatives such as https://saveyourinternet.eu/, https://juliareda.eu/2018/05/censorship-machines-link-tax-fi... and now EFF use clickbaity, juvenile, and outright incorrect arguments, foul language, and lacking nuance. Am I an outlier in thinking that YouTube/Google and others should be held liable for willfully profitting from "copyright" infringement at a massive scale, yet simply find the proposed law very badly done and in obvious need of consideration? The elephant in the room being that there is no "media database" that could be used for content scanning; the entire concept is technically infeasible. The whole idea of scanning "uploads" stinks; why not requiring that works are linked to rather uploaded, or use HTML metadata to represent an asserted license/"copyright" weaver. Moreover, the law isn't aligned with press laws: it's completely unclear who is subject to this law in the first place eg. if you're hosting sites on your domain, or at your IP, yet others take responsibility and are mentioned by name for the site's content (under VisdP in German press law, for example).
Re:The EU's Copyright Proposal Is Extremely Bad News for Eve... by pimmen on Friday June 08, 2018 @04:30AM (#17263605)
I sent an email to my MEPs saying exactly this; it's not technically feasible to implement this without having the media in question, so you are shifting this very steep requirement of proof from the accuser to the accused. The media companies are the accusers, they should build this database to make it easier for them to prove their case.
Re:The EU's Copyright Proposal Is Extremely Bad News for Eve... by tannhaeuser on Friday June 08, 2018 @05:44AM (#17263932)
Interesting. How did you formulate your concerns? IANAL (well, took four semesters) and it's difficult even for most lawyers to recap the entire legal theory behind commercial and moral rights of works. Do you know a better template text than https://saveyourinternet.eu/ and in German?

I agree the law should be reconsidered, or at least, as you say, should address publishers's part in eg. maintaining and distributing SHA keys for works they claim, though we all know this can trivially be defeated by just recoding content. I also don't understand why concepts of other parts of the law (link previews of snippets from news, Wikipedia and StackOverflow being shown on SERP pages so users don't go to the original source) aren't integrated, when there are obvious, widely used, and readily available techniques for linking, annotations and HTML metadata, or why these two issues should belong in the same law. I guess it's just a profoundly incompetent law.

I'm still confused who is behind the push for this part of "copyright" reform. German party CDU they say (eg. the party of Ms Merkel) with their buddy/sponsor Axel Springer Verlag, but OTOH last year's equally flawed law for online platforms self-censoring was initiated by Heiko Maas, SPD, so the lack of public or parliamentary discussion smells like a hidden quid-pro-quo deal here to me. I'd really appreciate links to more balanced and comprehensive coverage; even netzpolitik.org coverage is too one-sided IMHO.

Re:The EU's Copyright Proposal Is Extremely Bad News for Eve... by beojan on Friday June 08, 2018 @05:21AM (#17263816)
> The elephant in the room being that there is no "media database" that could be used for content scanning

For video and music, at least, YouTube already has ContentID.

Re:The EU's Copyright Proposal Is Extremely Bad News for Eve... by giomasce on Saturday June 09, 2018 @11:01AM (#17273343)
I agree that the abuse of this excessively strong language is annoying, and I am not sure it really serves the right cause. If I read that "the Internet as we know it will be destroyed" I am much more inclined to ignore than to understand. Maybe they think that people are more impressed by strong language, but this has become so widespread that basically everyone is now "vaccinated" and it does not work any more.

For the sake of the battle, however, I will save my pickyness for another time.