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Re:America's Startup Scene Is Looking Anemic by wozniacki on Thursday June 07, 2018 @10:53AM (#17256250)

  The wasted potential economic energy in 
  this country is a tragedy of colossal proportions.
Interesting observation.

Now hypothetically lets imagine for the sake of argument we've a safety net of the likes of somewhere on the spectrum between France and one of the Scandinavian countries.

All else equal, do you think the American entrepreneurial dynamism you see now would still be around if we had one such welfare state-lite?

Or do you think people would grow lackadaisical? Have there been studies on this sort of thing?

I'm not implying that its necessarily bad but this comes up a lot in discussions of UBI and such. Tangentially, just last week there was a discussion on how labor laws make life difficult for startups in France.[1] The discussion there makes you wonder perhaps the issues surrounding what actually spurs the indomitable entrepreneurial instinct is more complex than it seems on the surface.[2]

[1]

Macron Vowed to Make France a ‘Startup Nation.’ Is It Getting There? (nytimes.com)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17169314

[2]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17169740

Re:America's Startup Scene Is Looking Anemic by yawz on Thursday June 07, 2018 @11:12AM (#17256462)
It's interesting to see the differences in the difficulties in starting a business in the US vs. Europe.

It is "easier" to start a business in the US, but it is riskier because of the general weakness of the social safety net (healthcare, social helps, free childcare, etc.).