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Re:AMD Zen 2 Update: 7nm EPYC in Labs Now, Launching in 2019 by rbinv on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @06:28AM (#17245853)
Aren't all manufacturers dependent on ASML's stuff, anyway? As far as I know, none of the big guys are developing their own EUV tech. Where's the edge?
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Re:AMD Zen 2 Update: 7nm EPYC in Labs Now, Launching in 2019 by ylk on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @07:26AM (#17246083)
Got told once* that they have specific teams working with Intel, etc. with pretty strict rules, where if you ever work for one of those teams you can't ever work for one of the others. So if I got it right ASML develops their EUV tech, etc and then those teams build things on top of that with Intel, TSMC and so on.

*at an ASML booth at a kind of job fair at my uni

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Re:AMD Zen 2 Update: 7nm EPYC in Labs Now, Launching in 2019 by dogma1138 on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @08:43AM (#17246579)
The litography is just one part of the manufacturing process and there are many ways to apply the same tech. Also the development as mentioned below is completely segregated between teams.
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