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Re:Advanced computing with IPython by pm90 on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @02:11PM (#17240421)
Its a valid point to consider that as part of the learning experience. I don't think that students with limited time should be forced to go through that though. If you get them hooked on to computing, their natural curiosity would lead them to explore it further. Bogging them down with unnecessary setup stuff would probably only make them think that this shit takes way too much effort etc.

I've had many courses that were bogged down by software setup issues in college; I would rather than not be the case.

Re:Advanced computing with IPython by bunderbunder on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @07:25PM (#17243051)
Same here.

I want to say that, if it's pedagogically valuable, then it needs to be made into a small lab course (or part of the lab unit for an intro class), and taught once, in an organized manner.

And then stop letting professors hide behind this lame excuse so that they can get on with teaching the stuff that their course is actually about.