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Re:Behind the Messy, Expensive Split Between Facebook and Wh... by doctorsher on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @01:27PM (#17239957)
I totally understand. You are facing the classic dilemma of privacy vs convenience. Personally, I distrusted facebook so much that I have avoided any of their products since 2013. Obviously a major win for my privacy, but it sacrificed some convenience -- then I had no real-time way to communicate with my relative in India.

In the end, you'll have to do some introspection to see if the convenience gained is worth the privacy lost. How essential is it that you communicate in real-time with your relatives? Would your relationship be substantially different if you sent email or wrote letters?

Re:Behind the Messy, Expensive Split Between Facebook and Wh... by tgsovlerkhgsel on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @05:28PM (#17242255)
At this point, it isn't about privacy vs. convenience, it's about privacy vs. being able to have a social life. People aren't going to install a more privacy-supportive messenger just for you, they'll gradually let you drop out of their lives just like you would with a friend that you can only reach by driving to their farm 6 hours away.
Re:Behind the Messy, Expensive Split Between Facebook and Wh... by plankers on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @12:14AM (#17244317)
People had social lives before facebook existed... it largely consisted of going places and seeing people regularly. This still works, believe it or not.
Re:Behind the Messy, Expensive Split Between Facebook and Wh... by doctorsher on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @07:09PM (#17242920)
Replace convenience with whatever benefit you see most pertinent. That is your trade-off. For me, convenience is the most frequent benefit.
Re:Behind the Messy, Expensive Split Between Facebook and Wh... by Djvacto on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @09:01AM (#17246723)
It's definitely tough, but a big perk of WhatsApp is also the data-calls (instead of paying for long-distance). Maybe next time I visit I can try to help convince them to check out something new, but I also ended up dragging a couple of social groups onto WhatsApp to organize events, chat, etc just by viture of it being what most people use. Especially over in Europe, it's very heavily used and not easy to replace, as it's sometimes the de-facto platform for communication.

But it's definitely a trade-off, so I at least kind of have a choice.