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Re:Michael Pollan on Psilocybe Azurescens by Alex3917 on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @12:03PM (#17238983)
> would you recommend it

If you're healthy enough, I think it's something that people have an obligation to society to try. It's also just an important part of the human experience, and imho going through life without ever trying psychedelics is akin to never going through school, dating, having a job, starting a family, etc.

Re:Michael Pollan on Psilocybe Azurescens by tzar on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @01:08PM (#17239733)
> ...never going through school, dating, having a job, starting a family, etc.

Are those things really an important part of “the” human experience? I'm surprised to hear psychedelics mentioned in the same sentence as such a normative prescription.

Re:Michael Pollan on Psilocybe Azurescens by Alex3917 on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @02:16PM (#17240482)
> Are those things really an important part of “the” human experience?

Yes, but important in the sense of them being the most salient human experiences, not important in the sense that you should do them. E.g. I’d put going to war in the same category.

Re:Michael Pollan on Psilocybe Azurescens by stinos on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @03:28PM (#17241173)
I understand you getting downvoted; I wouldn't oblige it but would like to see psychedelics to not be frowned upon and considered complete evil by most of society. Because imo there is some truth in what you say: especially with people around my age I can tell after a couple of conversations with a pretty good success rate (say 80%) if they have ever taken psychedelics. Yeah yeah, small sample size, anecdotal and whatnot, but still... There's this particular openness of the mind quite a lot of non-users just seem to lack.
Re:Michael Pollan on Psilocybe Azurescens by andai on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @10:52PM (#17244016)
Ahh, but is it correlation or causation? :)
Re:Michael Pollan on Psilocybe Azurescens by stinos on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @04:44AM (#17245417)
That is of course the major question :] Looking at myself though, psychedelics did definitely change something (as in, bascically from one day to the other, not only gradually, so there is something causal there)
Re:Michael Pollan on Psilocybe Azurescens by tptacek on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @01:42PM (#17240130)
People don't have an obligation to society to go through school or start a family, and they certainly don't have an obligation to try psychedelics. My experiences with them have not been pleasant and I have a problem with anyone suggesting to someone uncertain about the prospect that they're in any way obligated to move forward with them.
Re:Michael Pollan on Psilocybe Azurescens by Alex3917 on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @02:02PM (#17240339)
> People don't have an obligation to society to go through school or start a family

I didn’t say they did. The reason I think people should try different drugs is largely that it’s not possible to fully understand the art, laws, institutions, culture, etc. of a society without having had the qualitative experiences that inspired them. The reason I think there is an obligation is the potential to have new ideas and experiences that benefit society. E.g. given the current drama around gay rights, if you can swallow a pill that gives you the qualitative experience of being gay for a couple hours then I believe that’s something you have the moral obligation to do.

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