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Re:Toshiba to Close the Book on Its Laptop Unit by FussyZeus on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @10:17AM (#17237782)
2015 is the last good model for Macbooks, and they can be had (relatively) affordably secondhand or even via Apple Refurbished.
Re:Toshiba to Close the Book on Its Laptop Unit by post_break on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @11:01AM (#17238289)
You can still buy the 2015 Macbook pro straight from apple brand new and pick up apple care.
Re:Toshiba to Close the Book on Its Laptop Unit by wtallis on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @01:47PM (#17240198)
How? It's not shown on their website.
Re:Toshiba to Close the Book on Its Laptop Unit by jackvalentine on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @07:59PM (#17243258)
https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/15-inch

Under the new models, the old non-touchbar 15" with deeper keyboard is shown.

Re:Toshiba to Close the Book on Its Laptop Unit by FussyZeus on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @08:42AM (#17246573)
Well I'll be damned, look at that.
Re:Toshiba to Close the Book on Its Laptop Unit by wtallis on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @10:06PM (#17243840)
Ah. But the old 13" is truly gone.
Re:Toshiba to Close the Book on Its Laptop Unit by FussyZeus on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @11:22AM (#17238516)
You can buy the 2015 refurbished, in limited quantities, but not brand new. It does come with AppleCare though.
Re:Toshiba to Close the Book on Its Laptop Unit by dcosson on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @11:30AM (#17238603)
Is the keyboard that bad that sticking with 2015 is worth it? For just about the same price the 2017's seem to have significantly faster SSD's by some benchmarks, a thinner form factor, slightly faster RAM and maybe a tiny perf boost from Kaby Lake. I don't expect to use the touchbar much but I don't see it being an issue either, I already map escape to capslock.
Re:Toshiba to Close the Book on Its Laptop Unit by Xixi on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @12:59PM (#17239641)
It's a matter of taste: I personally love the keyboard, much better in my opinion than the one of my old MacBook Air, or any other keyboard I've used in fact. But it took me a while to get used to it. However I would not be surprised to see it die prematurely: be careful not to stick something (food...) under a key!

The touchbar is entirely useless though. I've mapped the escape key to capslock, not doing so would have driven me insane.

Re:Toshiba to Close the Book on Its Laptop Unit by kalleboo on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @02:38AM (#17244814)
If you need a reliable machine then yes it is.

I actually like the feel of the new keyboard but the "J" key is busted and compressed air isn't cutting it anymore so I'm going to have to send my main laptop off for a week which is a huge disturbance in my work flow (gotta set up the backup Mac)

Re:Toshiba to Close the Book on Its Laptop Unit by pier25 on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @10:50AM (#17238160)
I recently bought a 2017 Macbook Air with the refreshed CPU and it's a great machine for the price.

Yeah, the screen is old, but it's not that big of a deal IMO.

Re:Toshiba to Close the Book on Its Laptop Unit by FussyZeus on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @11:00AM (#17238277)
Eh, I've crossed into retina-land. There's no going back, hehe.

The wife has a Macbook Air I believe from 2013. Swapped in an SSD upgrade some time ago, still kickin.

Re:Toshiba to Close the Book on Its Laptop Unit by pier25 on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @12:48PM (#17239515)
The DPI is not so bad. It's not retina, but at 128 DPI it's decent.

The biggest issues IMO are ghosting and color gamut, but I don't really care for using Sublime or browsing Reddit and HN. The MBA is not my main machine anyway.

Re:Toshiba to Close the Book on Its Laptop Unit by mkirklions on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @12:33PM (#17239355)
If I need to compile a React Native App, this would do the trick right?

Looking to give Apple the least amount of money as possible.

Re:Toshiba to Close the Book on Its Laptop Unit by fhood on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @12:43PM (#17239463)
Sure, find a maxed out 15" model. It'll do pretty much whatever you need it too. Mine (purchased new) still blows a lot of stuff out of the water as far as baseline day to day performance.

Mpbs were, and still are, very popular dev machines, so most dev tasks are pretty easy to achieve. Just be careful not to install multiple package managers or you may never find some of your libraries again.

Re:Toshiba to Close the Book on Its Laptop Unit by FussyZeus on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @03:19PM (#17241065)
My 2014 Macbook Pro still dances circles around my boss's brand new top-spec Dell.
Re:Toshiba to Close the Book on Its Laptop Unit by emidln on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @12:32AM (#17244360)
Exact opposite at my work. Most devs were stuck trying to use VMs with 16GB Macbook Pros and I'm sitting with a 64GB Clevo happily running Linux. Its hard to overstate how much better a modern NVMe m.2 stick and spare ram for a memory disk in key locations is for your dev experience.