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Re:Tesla Faces Accelerating Rate of Model 3 Refunds by r00fus on Monday June 04, 2018 @09:19PM (#17234198)
This makes sense - for whatever inane reason (I'm not going to outright say it's malfeasance), Nissan chose to not include active thermal management for their Leaf line of cars. Even the one they sell today only has less effective cooling.

This means that older Leafs have a greatly reduced range. Even my budget Ford Focus EV 2017 ($16k negotiated cap cost) has active thermal management for the battery pack so I might keep it off-lease.

Re:Tesla Faces Accelerating Rate of Model 3 Refunds by madengr on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @07:11AM (#17236579)
Keep in mind, the Leaf came out 1-2 years before the Model S, and and less that 1/2 the price. It uses totally different style of batteries. Probably all cost cutting. But yeah, cooling would be nice. They did some redesign for 2015, but it is still air cooled.
Re:Tesla Faces Accelerating Rate of Model 3 Refunds by r00fus on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @04:48PM (#17241891)
Sure, but why does the 2018 Leaf not have active thermal management for their battery pack?

If my compliance-car Ford POS has it, surely the top-selling EV in history should have it by it's 2nd version model.