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Re:Hello, GitHub by irrational on Monday June 04, 2018 @02:36PM (#17230712)
This is a serious question. How old are you? I'm wondering if you were a developer during the 1990s when MS was at its worst. I was and I still harbor deep hatred for all things MS. I wonder if the rest of the "skeptics" are coming from the same time period and those of you who are saying our concerns are unfounded are from a younger generation.
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Re:Hello, GitHub by andyburke on Monday June 04, 2018 @02:45PM (#17230817)
I'm not the person you're responding to, but I am turning 40 this year. I was also around for the terror that was Microsoft in the 90s when they were competing with Oracle for "company most desperately trying to kill open source".

I had a similar deep hatred for MS.

In the 00s I spent time as a video game developer and I was forced to use MS tools. And honestly, their developer tools were pretty good. Although I still didn't trust them, I respected them (or at least certain divisions within MS).

In the 10s, I've been mostly doing web stuff. Over the last couple of years I've started using VS Code, and it's actually a great editor and MS seems committed to it and to contributing to some other open source projects.

MS does not strike me as anywhere near the same company they were in the 90s as Gates transitioned out and Ballmer took over. Nadella seems to have a vision for MS that's much more in line with what developers actually want. (The irony of Ballmer's "DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!" is palpable.)

I wouldn't consider myself an MS fan, but I also don't view them as the devil they were then. I'm not totally sure what this means for github yet, but I am willing to wait and see before I grab my pitchfork.

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Re:Hello, GitHub by shakibalawouz on Monday June 04, 2018 @05:43PM (#17232823)
>The irony of Ballmer's "DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!" is palpable.

Well guess what? They just bought exactly that.

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Re:Hello, GitHub by sha90 on Monday June 04, 2018 @02:47PM (#17230839)
Development on the MS side was just fine in the 90s for many people. If you were an open source developer in the 90s, maybe not, but then again, OSS in the 90s was pretty broken for _everyone_.
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