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Re:Facebook Gave Device Makers Deep Access to Data on Users ... by hackinthebochs on Monday June 04, 2018 @11:27AM (#17228661)
>They defined device makers as service providers, and then allowed them to do things that even third parties weren't allowed.

Because they're not third parties. Third parties are anyone off the street that meets some minimal requirements. It's like the distinction between third party and second party releases on video game consoles. Second party releases are extensions of the first party publisher because of the special access and extra scrutiny they get. The difference in this case is that this "special access" is apparently no different than what you get from the website through scraping HTML, just in a more convenient manner.

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Re:Facebook Gave Device Makers Deep Access to Data on Users ... by KaoruAoiShiho on Monday June 04, 2018 @11:38AM (#17228859)
The user is the second party dude.
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Re:Facebook Gave Device Makers Deep Access to Data on Users ... by closeparen on Monday June 04, 2018 @01:24PM (#17229999)
The user doesn’t manipulate the EM spectrum with his mind, but through user agent hardware, firmware, and software. The client stack necessarily has the same access he does.
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Re:Facebook Gave Device Makers Deep Access to Data on Users ... by thinkling on Monday June 04, 2018 @02:38PM (#17230742)
Yes, so it might be OK for software written by a third party to access FB with the second party's authentication and privileges, when running on the second party's device.

But that doesn't make it OK for that data to be stored on the third party's servers or be otherwise available to the third party.

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Re:Facebook Gave Device Makers Deep Access to Data on Users ... by seanhunter on Monday June 04, 2018 @01:51PM (#17230251)
That's not what third parties means. Third parties means parties other than the service provider and the user.
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Re:Facebook Gave Device Makers Deep Access to Data on Users ... by hackinthebochs on Monday June 04, 2018 @07:37PM (#17233661)
Third party has never meant anyone who is not the first party. Special agreements between companies alter this status.
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