Re:American tech giants are making life tough for startups
by weliketocode on Sunday June 03, 2018 @07:23PM
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Definitely. Instead of a regulatory body proactively thinking about practices as anti-competitive, there appears to be a very reactionary approach of punishing large incumbents that pursue m&a out of necessity or approaching anti-competitiveness as partisan politics.
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Re:American tech giants are making life tough for startups
by osrec on Sunday June 03, 2018 @07:35PM
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Yeah, I think regulators realise we have a monopoly brewing once they see people buying Google branded milk from Googlemarts, having driven there in Googlemobiles, using traffic directions from... Google.
Re:American tech giants are making life tough for startups
by whatshisface on Sunday June 03, 2018 @09:49PM
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That's not a monopoly - a monopoly would be if for at minimum one of those things, you could only find a Google-controlled version.
Re:American tech giants are making life tough for startups
by osrec on Monday June 04, 2018 @07:05AM
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I think it is monopolistic. If one company has so much influence in your life that they can direct you to their own products, so that you habitually start relying on them for almost anything, then they have the ability to develop a wide range of monopolies by influencing your choices. E.g. Google has a monopoly as a trusted source of all information - what's even stranger, is that they are seen as a non-interfering third party by most users - because of this, many other monopolies can emerge, because they have the ability to control "truth" and "popular opinion".
Re:American tech giants are making life tough for startups
by delecti on Monday June 04, 2018 @09:51AM
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By that logic, Walmart would already be a monopoly in the perception of quite a few people in America, which is clearly not the case to much of the rest of the country.
Re:American tech giants are making life tough for startups
by Clubber on Sunday June 03, 2018 @11:08PM
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That's not true, but it's close; at least according to US law. Microsoft was deemed a monopoly in 2000 (which is actually legal) and abused it's monopolistic powers (which is not legal) while other OS's existed in the market: Apple, BeOS, Novell, Linux, OS/2, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor....
Re:American tech giants are making life tough for startups
by 1123581321 on Monday June 04, 2018 @01:36AM
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As you know, Microsoft had more than 90% of the OS market worldwide. While other OSes did exist, they didn’t provide meaningful competition. The person to which you replied meant that Google Milk is only a problem if Google abuses its search monopoly to push the market away from other milk vendors, not that Google isn’t a monopoly as long as another search engine exists. Their main point was that it isn’t abusing a monopoly to launch a broad array of products if each of those products compete in a fair market.
Re:American tech giants are making life tough for startups
by s73v3r_ on Monday June 04, 2018 @12:50PM
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For the legal notion of monopoly, you don't need to be the literal only one.
Re:American tech giants are making life tough for startups
by kennxl on Sunday June 03, 2018 @07:50PM
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Definitely the political angle in most of these regulatory institutions is frustrating. And money in politics as an extension.
Re:American tech giants are making life tough for startups
by naravara on Sunday June 03, 2018 @11:04PM
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It’s further complicated by the fact that a lot of this stuff functions more like a public utility than a line of business. It may well be that nationalizing the firm makes more sense than cracking it up.