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Re:Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up ... by KaoruAoiShiho on Saturday June 02, 2018 @11:41PM (#17217798)
Too expensive to be worth it. I'm totally fine with outsourcing stuff that is difficult and third parties can do better, but in this case the amount of stuff you're playing egregious "cloud" pricing for is too much. Just spend a handful of days learning one of the open source stacks and you'll be set for life. It's totally worth it assuming you'll be making more than 1 app ever.
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Re:Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up ... by onion2k on Sunday June 03, 2018 @05:32AM (#17218734)
Firebase's free tier is more than enough to play with an idea, and the next tier up is (100k concurrent users) $25/month ... if that's too expensive then there's something very wrong with your pricing model. Obviously this assumes you're not storing much data per user - you wouldn't build a imgur clone with it - but it's not that expensive for any typical SaaS app.
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Re:Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up ... by roadbeats on Sunday June 03, 2018 @07:51AM (#17219106)
Concurrent users are not the only limitation. Your app needs to fit the bandwith limits as well. I had to shutdown a very simple app with a few users because of ridiculous billing.
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Re:Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up ... by sampl on Sunday June 03, 2018 @07:50AM (#17219105)
And it's actually way cheaper for small apps if you "upgrade" to the Blaze plan and do pay-as-you-go billing. I often pay between $0 and %0.05/mo...

Full pricing: https://firebase.google.com/pricing/

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Re:Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up ... by sampl on Saturday June 02, 2018 @11:54PM (#17217821)
Guess it depends on what you consider expensive.

For me, time I’m writing unnecessary code or learning libraries I don’t already know is time I’m not spending thinking about the product. I’m a designer who just wants to ship.

I am open to suggestions though. What would you recommend for, say, auth instead? I’ve tried rails, Django, node/mongo, etc; even hosting a small db on compose.io comes with a chunky base fee, and I still have to do way too much work for user accounts/search/APIs/ORM. There’s a reason Firebase is popular with the yoof.

Change my mind though!

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Re:Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up ... by lucasverra on Sunday June 03, 2018 @02:54AM (#17218299)
My startup is betting on parse server platform [0]. For us its the most of 2 worlds.

- huge community supporting a codebase initially private

- open source now so you can host it anywhere

- 3rd party online instances to quickly start [1][2]

[0][http://parseplatform.org/]

[1][https://sashido.io]

[2][https://back4app.com]

[3][https://https://www.nodechef.com/parse-server]

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Re:Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up ... by fsloth on Sunday June 03, 2018 @08:49AM (#17219280)
"Just spend a handful of days learning one of the open source stacks"

Sure, but which one? :)

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Re:Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up ... by naranha on Sunday June 03, 2018 @03:39AM (#17218411)
Opensource alternative to firebase: couchdb . Less features but the essentials are there...
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Re:Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up ... by realPubkey on Sunday June 03, 2018 @03:47AM (#17218433)
If you use couchdb+rxdb, you have the same subscribe-to-collection thing but without the google lock in
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Re:Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up ... by Humphrey on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @04:54AM (#17235971)
While firebase has an expensive first tier, Firestore bills more for what you use, like AWS does.
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