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Re:China has turned Xinjiang into a police state like no other by Roritharr on Saturday June 02, 2018 @04:28PM (#17216208)
Besides this being dystopian out of the western libertarian pov, i wonder what it actually does against crime? I imagine a crime free city would be an interesting human phenomenon without equal. The side effects of there not being any undetected and unprosecuted crime would be fascinating.
Re:China has turned Xinjiang into a police state like no other by jdavis703 on Saturday June 02, 2018 @04:31PM (#17216219)
What is crime though? Do you want to live somewhere where spitting on a random sidewalk in front of the wrong camera means you're banned from flying for a year? Is the fear of criminal violence greater than the fear of state violence?
Re:China has turned Xinjiang into a police state like no other by kfrzcode on Saturday June 02, 2018 @05:24PM (#17216457)
> an action or omission that constitutes an offense that may be prosecuted by the state and is punishable by law.

He who holds the biggest stick writes the book of law

Re:China has turned Xinjiang into a police state like no other by msh on Sunday June 03, 2018 @12:39PM (#17220355)
Depends on the country. Among my Danish countrymen I am pretty certain most is more afraid of criminal violence.
Re:China has turned Xinjiang into a police state like no other by temp_accounter on Saturday June 02, 2018 @04:50PM (#17216299)
The purpose is not to control 'crime', per se, the purpose is to repress the population. Uighers in China are effectively under permanent military occupation; it would be like asking whether the U.S. occupation of Baghdad 'actually did against crime': totally orthogonal to the actual purpose of these policies.
Re:China has turned Xinjiang into a police state like no other by mtgx on Saturday June 02, 2018 @04:46PM (#17216287)
It won't be crime free. These types of authoritarian systems also tend to have deep corruption. In other words, there will be plenty of people "with the right connections" to evade the system.
Re:China has turned Xinjiang into a police state like no other by privong on Saturday June 02, 2018 @04:44PM (#17216277)
> The side effects of there not being any undetected and unprosecuted crime would be fascinating.

The book "Liars and Outliers" addresses this question some, at least in broad hypothetical terms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liars_and_Outliers

Re:China has turned Xinjiang into a police state like no other by gpvos on Saturday June 02, 2018 @05:26PM (#17216464)
Depends how you define crime. A system like this creates lots of opportunities for abuse by the police.
Re:China has turned Xinjiang into a police state like no other by duxup on Saturday June 02, 2018 @04:32PM (#17216222)
It might be hard to study as I'm not sure how accurate crime stats are in China at all, let alone that region before the crackdown.