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Re:A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U... by refurb on Friday June 01, 2018 @07:03PM (#17211259)
OK, I get it, the US being a superpower is under a microscope and every imperfection is called out so other countries can look down their nose at it. That's fine.

But what are you talking about? What could the US learn from Canada on asset forfeiture? Canada does it too! How to do it better?

And as a Canadian, saying the gov't run their is better is purely laughable.

Re:A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U... by jboles on Friday June 01, 2018 @07:28PM (#17211425)
> What could the US learn from Canada on asset forfeiture? Canada does it too! How to do it better?

So does the UK, Australia, NZ, and many other countries. But somehow only the US has wannabe-military police rambo types doing it, to stock up their SWAT vans, machine guns and other gizmos. That does not exactly inspire confidence.

Re:A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U... by JackCh on Friday June 01, 2018 @09:40PM (#17212120)
Personally I prefer that US police look ugly and militaristic when they do it, since that sort of poor PR will work against them in the long run. If they presented themselves with a peaceful and calm aesthetic, the problem of asset forfeiture would be that much harder to mobilize the public against.
Re:A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U... by selectodude on Friday June 01, 2018 @09:38PM (#17212114)
Re:A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U... by jboles on Saturday June 02, 2018 @02:19PM (#17215677)
Not exactly just a phone call away though
Re:A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U... by woolvalley on Friday June 01, 2018 @07:09PM (#17211300)
Go live in the USA, and you'll see the multiple ways it's more broken than Canada. Many other friends who have moved over from other developed countries collaborate the experience.

I'm in the bay area, maybe it's just a special kind of broken that you don't see in other places in the USA, but things like flint, michigan also exist in the USA.

Re:A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U... by refurb on Friday June 01, 2018 @07:11PM (#17211313)
I do live in the US. And you know what? I think there is plenty the US has to offer that Canada doesn't. That's why I'm here.
Re:A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U... by untog on Friday June 01, 2018 @07:29PM (#17211431)
I agree that the US offers a whole lot that other countries do not. I would disagree that the US government offers anything other governments do not.

Of course, the US government has a role in the other attractive attributes the US has, but I personally think that role is exaggerated. I think the US would still be an economically dominant world power if it had the government of, say, Germany.

Re:A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U... by icelancer on Saturday June 02, 2018 @05:14AM (#17213668)
>> I would disagree that the US government offers anything other governments do not.

You are very first-world centric, then. While I am no interventionist, you are discounting the role the US Military has worldwide on trade, peacekeeping, and other vital roles it actually does a good job at when it's not fucking things up (which is often).

>> I think the US would still be an economically dominant world power if it had the government of, say, Germany.

Including the racial makeup of Germany and the immigration policies?

Re:A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U... by JackCh on Saturday June 02, 2018 @01:03PM (#17215367)
Are you trying to suggest that the racial makeup of Germany is inferior to America? I'd say population size, geographic properties (location, climate, resources, etc) and economic history count for much more than any racial inferiority.

Germany has a population 25% as large as America, and a GDP 18% of America's. So maybe if you ignored history, geography, a potential nonlinear relationship between population and economic domination¹ you could claim this discrepancy is solely due to racial differences between the populations of America and Germany. But I'm pretty damn skeptical of that.

1: for instance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winner-take-all_market

Re:A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U... by icelancer on Saturday June 02, 2018 @03:36PM (#17216008)
>> inferior

Uh, no. Just that it is vastly different and that it is a relevant data point.

Re:A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U... by JackCh on Saturday June 02, 2018 @05:11PM (#17216405)
Different in a way that's relevant when it comes to explaining discrepancies in economic output?
Re:A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U... by Turing_Machine on Friday June 01, 2018 @08:37PM (#17211800)
Canadians as a whole apparently disagree.

There are about ~700,000 Americans living in Canada, and also about ~700,000 Canadians living in the U.S. (see links below)

However, the U.S. population is more than 8x that of Canada. That means that on a proportional basis, Canadians are about 8x more likely to move to the U.S. than Americans are to move to Canada.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emigration_from_the_United_Sta...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_Stat...

Re:A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U... by JackCh on Friday June 01, 2018 @09:42PM (#17212135)
Maybe this says more about climate than it does about governments. Of course if that's true, that people care more about the weather than the government, maybe that in itself is saying something.
Re:A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U... by Turing_Machine on Friday June 01, 2018 @08:55PM (#17211887)
Those links offer some other interesting comparisons.

There are about 700,000 U.K. citizens living in the U.S., and only about 160,000 U.S. citizens living in the U.K. The populations are about 63 million and 320 million, respectively. On a proportional basis, one would expect to see 5x more Americans living in the U.K., but in fact, there are 4x more U.K. citizens living in the U.S.

Similar ratios apply for other countries. Germany has 1/4 the population of the U.S., but there are 5 times as many Germans living in the U.S. as there are Americans living in Germany.

Voting with your feet never lies.

Re:A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U... by selectodude on Friday June 01, 2018 @09:40PM (#17212122)
The US has always had a much more liberal immigration policy for ROW. Moving to the EU as an American is nigh on impossible. If was even remotely easy I'd have done it years and years ago.

Granted, that doesn't say anything positive about the immigration policy of Germany when 30 year old children can get in and I don't stand a chance. Oh well.

Re:A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U... by ironchef on Friday June 01, 2018 @07:13PM (#17211329)
what I inferred from the other post was that governments are complex... and each government has some things they do well.. and some things they do poorly (not necessarily just re: asset forfeiture). For example one could argue that the US could look at other governments to see alternatives for how to manage healthcare differently (or perhaps even just portions of it)