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Re:California approves $768M for electric vehicles by outworlder on Friday June 01, 2018 @04:46PM (#17210070)
Seriously, all electricity could come from burning arsenic, and it would still not matter.

There are a few things in play here:

1. Big power plants are WAY more efficient than wherever tiny thing you have under the hood, I don't care if it is a V8. 2. Power plants are usually located away from population centers. This means less health problems in the population. 3. Once you replace the power plants, the ENTIRE CAR FLEET gets an automatic update. It is easier to replace power plants, than to replace hundreds of millions of cars. 4. Electric car engines are incredibly efficient. 5. All those cars idling in traffic jams are not helping anyone. 6. 30% != 100%. It does not follow that they are all "methane powered". By your own admission, 30% are. 7. You are not burning fuel trying to extract, refine and transport fuels. Electricity transportation is everywhere and doesn't require trucks or pipelines. 8. EVs don't require oil changes. This is another big pollution source that's often not remembered.

Re:California approves $768M for electric vehicles by en4bz on Friday June 01, 2018 @05:01PM (#17210250)
> It is easier to replace power plants, than to replace hundreds of millions of cars.

Then why not use this money to replace them. If it's so easy then the effects will be felt sooner and will be enjoyed by everyone not just people looking to buy a new car.

Re:California approves $768M for electric vehicles by kjksf on Friday June 01, 2018 @06:16PM (#17210943)
We need to do both and generation side doesn't need help.

Coal plants (the most polluting) are shutting down and being replaced by natural gas, wind and solar simply due to cost of wind and solar dropping rapidly.

Those costs will continue to drop and economics will get even better in the (relatively near) future.

Vox often covers that topic, see e.g. https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/10/19/164944..., https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2018/4/10/1721444..., https://www.vox.com/2018/5/30/17408602/solar-wind-energy-ren..., https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2018/5/18/1735973...