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Re:How to get rich without getting lucky by toomuchtodo on Friday June 01, 2018 @10:40AM (#17205682)
To live off of $30k/year, you only need $750k saved, not $1MM (@ 4% annual withdrawal rate).
Re:How to get rich without getting lucky by kentm on Friday June 01, 2018 @04:42PM (#17210024)
The 4% withdrawal rate has been challenged, and one shouldn't use it as a guaranteed safe rate. It included massive bull runs that may not be repeated going forward. A lot of research has predicted lower real rates of return (around 4% average) in the next date.
Re:How to get rich without getting lucky by kudokatz on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @11:26AM (#17238566)
> one shouldn't use it as a guaranteed safe rate

of course not - there are no certainties

> It included massive bull runs that may not be repeated

it also worked through times like the great depression; on aggregate it's amazingly resilient

> A lot of research has predicted lower real rates of return

This is a SUPER-important thing for making your own FI models!

Re:How to get rich without getting lucky by toomuchtodo on Friday June 01, 2018 @05:28PM (#17210545)
It is based off of the best available information.
Re:How to get rich without getting lucky by falcolas on Friday June 01, 2018 @10:50AM (#17205768)
Don't forget to include the percentage required to offset inflation.

EDIT: Missed that this was for a fixed period of time - 30 years.

But... what happens if you live more than 30 years past your retirement? It would really suck to retire on $750,000 (or $1M) savings at 45, and live to be 100.

Re:How to get rich without getting lucky by toomuchtodo on Friday June 01, 2018 @10:50AM (#17205769)
Included in the rate I quoted, per the trinity study, although you might need to reduce your withdrawal rate below that some years depending on your asset holdings (see below for detailed info).

EDIT: Again, the rate quoted is for withdrawals in perpetuity. It doesn't guarantee your savings will outlive you, but it's highly confident it will.

https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Trinity_study_update

Re:How to get rich without getting lucky by monktastic1 on Friday June 01, 2018 @05:36PM (#17210615)
Some research suggests that a 3.5% withdrawal rate will last basically forever.

See, e.g. https://www.kitces.com/blog/adjusting-safe-withdrawal-rates-...

Re:How to get rich without getting lucky by yeahsure on Friday June 01, 2018 @10:51PM (#17212364)
I know it's not what most people want, but if you retired to a country with a low cost of living that $1M would be more than enough to live really comfortable till you die.