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Re:Canada hits back at 'punitive' U.S. tariffs in 'turning p... by throwaway5752 on Thursday May 31, 2018 @09:32PM (#17201898)
Donald Trump is objectively (ranked by presidential historians of all political parties) as the worst president in the 242 year history of the US.

It will be work to get back what we can of what we've lost.

Re:Canada hits back at 'punitive' U.S. tariffs in 'turning p... by Larrikin on Thursday May 31, 2018 @09:35PM (#17201919)
I believe it, but would like a source to see the criteria and who is rating.
Re:Canada hits back at 'punitive' U.S. tariffs in 'turning p... by throwaway5752 on Thursday May 31, 2018 @09:54PM (#17202003)
https://sps.boisestate.edu/politicalscience/files/2018/02/Gr...

"The 2018 Presidents & Executive Politics Presidential Greatness Survey was conducted online via Qualtrics from December 22, 2017 to January 16, 2018. Respondents were current and recent members of the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association, which is the foremost organization of social science experts in presidential politics. 320 respondents were invited to participate, and 170 usable responses were received, yielding a 53.1% response rate"

It's impossible to prove anything. But these people are scholars in the field, it's non-partisan, the survey methodology is transparent, the results are fairly consistent across partisan self-identification, and they are fairly consistent over time (2014 poll of same org, 2010 Siena College survey, et al). It's significant.

Re:Canada hits back at 'punitive' U.S. tariffs in 'turning p... by ameister14 on Thursday May 31, 2018 @10:34PM (#17202165)
That implies an equal number of each party or general affiliation - it wasn't. 9 of the 166 respondents considered themselves conservative.

Trump is not a good president, don't get me wrong, but that's just not good science.

Re:Canada hits back at 'punitive' U.S. tariffs in 'turning p... by throwaway5752 on Thursday May 31, 2018 @10:49PM (#17202223)
It's not science, it's a survey. And you know that about the respondents because they were transparent about their data.

And the self-identified conservatives rated him in the bottom five, too.

Re:Canada hits back at 'punitive' U.S. tariffs in 'turning p... by ameister14 on Friday June 01, 2018 @11:12AM (#17206034)
Surveys are very much a scientific tool. This one surveyed social scientists, who use surveys (like this one) regularly as part of conducting social science.

Yes, they were transparent. You, on the other hand, implied equal numbers.

Nobody likes Trump. There's no need to inflate how bad he is - it's very apparent.

Re:Canada hits back at 'punitive' U.S. tariffs in 'turning p... by throwaway5752 on Saturday June 02, 2018 @11:16AM (#17214908)
It bothered me the first time you posted this and didn't say anything then, but I didn't imply equal numbers of respondents and I don't know why you think I did. Unless you have some kind of deeper knowledge about partisan alignment in the population, for all we know this is representative. The rankings are very consistent regardless of party identification in the responses across the board, party identification of respondent seems to be a weak factor in the rankings.
Re:Canada hits back at 'punitive' U.S. tariffs in 'turning p... by ameister14 on Sunday June 03, 2018 @11:25AM (#17219968)
I do actually have deeper knowledge about partisan alignment in the greater population. Even if I didn't, the conservatives did not rank Trump worst. They ranked Buchanan worst, Trump was #40.

When you say this: "Donald Trump is objectively (ranked by presidential historians of all political parties) as the worst president in the 242 year history of the US."

That usually means that presidential historians of all parties ranked him worst, or at least that a poll controlling for party/political leaning as a variable concluded that he was worst. Neither was the case here.