Re:Apple and Russia Face Off Over Telegram on App Store
by ryanlol on Thursday May 31, 2018 @08:50PM
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>Telegram doesn't have reproducible builds, do they? So if they really wanted to fuck people over, all they had to do is to ship a build that uses predictable PRNG.
This doesn't really matter that much, the source code isn't very helpful while auditing a RNG.
Most of the time Telegram doesn't even encrypt conversations, yet this is their main selling point.
>So, yes, I think that you are seeing things that are not there and it's yet another case of stupidity rather than malice on part of Telegram's devs.
No. I just don't think it matters whether this was stupidity or malice, sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice. This was not your typical crypto fail. You suggested that this is a common kind of error, can you point at someone else that did this?
I think it's fair to assume malice in the case of Telegram, their "secure encrypted messaging" application still doesn't even encrypt most conversations.
This doesn't really matter that much, the source code isn't very helpful while auditing a RNG.
Most of the time Telegram doesn't even encrypt conversations, yet this is their main selling point.
>So, yes, I think that you are seeing things that are not there and it's yet another case of stupidity rather than malice on part of Telegram's devs.
No. I just don't think it matters whether this was stupidity or malice, sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice. This was not your typical crypto fail. You suggested that this is a common kind of error, can you point at someone else that did this?
I think it's fair to assume malice in the case of Telegram, their "secure encrypted messaging" application still doesn't even encrypt most conversations.