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Re:Amazon follows Google and Apple and bans system-wide ad b... by 49bc on Thursday May 31, 2018 @12:06PM (#17197386)
Last time I looked at a “system-wide” adblocker, it was just a vpn service with proxied your traffic (not just DNS) through a who-knows-what server. That seemed really sketchy to me, and I doubt most users knew the implications of it.
Re:Amazon follows Google and Apple and bans system-wide ad b... by ameshkov on Thursday May 31, 2018 @12:10PM (#17197435)
You may have looked on a bad one.

System-wide blockers on both iOS and Android do use the VPN API, but the idea is to intercept your outgoing traffic on the TUN interface, emulate the TCP/IP stack, and filter it locally, right on your device.

Re:Amazon follows Google and Apple and bans system-wide ad b... by 49bc on Thursday May 31, 2018 @12:18PM (#17197520)
How do you know which one the app is doing? From my perspective the vpn was “on”
Re:Amazon follows Google and Apple and bans system-wide ad b... by ameshkov on Thursday May 31, 2018 @02:23PM (#17198748)
The easiest way would be to visit a website like "whatsmyip" and check that your IP address stays the same.
Re:Amazon follows Google and Apple and bans system-wide ad b... by hedora on Thursday May 31, 2018 @12:22PM (#17197567)
Not perfect, but you could connect to wifi, and look at the connections the phone makes.

Of course, it could change its behavior if it detects a cellular connection...

Re:Amazon follows Google and Apple and bans system-wide ad b... by saagarjha on Thursday May 31, 2018 @12:57PM (#17197931)
A better way would be to download the app and reverse engineer the binary.
Re:Amazon follows Google and Apple and bans system-wide ad b... by 49bc on Thursday May 31, 2018 @01:49PM (#17198442)
And do that every single time there’s an update?
Re:Amazon follows Google and Apple and bans system-wide ad b... by gruez on Thursday May 31, 2018 @03:03PM (#17199070)
or download an open source version on f-droid
Re:Amazon follows Google and Apple and bans system-wide ad b... by sofaofthedamned on Thursday May 31, 2018 @12:44PM (#17197774)
Exactly. It's a VPN in name only, and the only reason is to route traffic to be able to bypass the security features in the OS.
Re:Amazon follows Google and Apple and bans system-wide ad b... by hendersoon on Thursday May 31, 2018 @12:09PM (#17197422)
They are actually local VPNs looping back to your device. That's the only way to change DNS servers when on cellular data. Until Android P, which will finally allow that.
Re:Amazon follows Google and Apple and bans system-wide ad b... by kinsomo on Thursday May 31, 2018 @12:14PM (#17197473)
Would it be possible to skirt these policies by having a system-wide ad blocker that's only partially configured? Either the user has to modify their systems settings to use the local VPN or take some action to load or enable the blocklist.
Re:Amazon follows Google and Apple and bans system-wide ad b... by ratinacage on Thursday May 31, 2018 @12:15PM (#17197477)
The ones I have used on Android just use the /etc/hosts file.
Re:Amazon follows Google and Apple and bans system-wide ad b... by sofaofthedamned on Thursday May 31, 2018 @12:44PM (#17197782)
Those ones need root. The VPN ones are there to bypass this requirement.