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Re:Google Emerges as Early Winner from Europe’s New Data Pri... by hshehehjdjdjd on Thursday May 31, 2018 @09:39AM (#17196182)
The only difference is that dumping toxic waste in rivers does actual, concrete harm. Targeted advertising? The worst I’ve heard about it is that it makes some people feel a little icky. I suppose that’s a concrete harm in a sense but it seems a much less serious one, at least to me.
Re:Google Emerges as Early Winner from Europe’s New Data Pri... by Krasnol on Thursday May 31, 2018 @09:46AM (#17196235)
> The worst I’ve heard about it is that it makes some people feel a little icky.

Yeah sure, all that privacy, who needs it anyway?

/s

Re:Google Emerges as Early Winner from Europe’s New Data Pri... by conanbatt on Thursday May 31, 2018 @09:51AM (#17196278)
Its interesting how one of the most frequent uses of the right to be forgotten is used by politicians cleaning up their search history.

Who would have thought that legislators had something to gain from a proposal they push?

Re:Google Emerges as Early Winner from Europe’s New Data Pri... by Angostura on Thursday May 31, 2018 @10:05AM (#17196375)
Who would have thought that legislators would be aware of legislation.
Re:Google Emerges as Early Winner from Europe’s New Data Pri... by hshehehjdjdjd on Thursday May 31, 2018 @01:49PM (#17198441)
I’m sorry but this is not really a substantive objection to what I said. Yes, people have a vague preference for privacy. I never disputed that. No, failing to respect that preference has not caused material, externally visible harm.
Re:Google Emerges as Early Winner from Europe’s New Data Pri... by Krasnol on Sunday June 03, 2018 @10:37AM (#17219727)
We're not taking about some vague concept. For some of us it is part of the constitution. It's the RIGHT to privacy. Your attempts at downplaying it are the main vehicle of the advertisement industry and it's a disgrace at least. This ideology has educated those "people" to ignore that by hiding the means and downplaying the relevance. This law tries to at least regain some of the awareness that has been lost in the last decades and this is why the industry is crying so much.
Re:Google Emerges as Early Winner from Europe’s New Data Pri... by hshehehjdjdjd on Monday June 04, 2018 @06:14PM (#17233109)
You have a constitutional right to privacy from the government. There is no such constitutional right (in the U.S.) that would prevent private surveillance, especially in cases where it is consensual.
Re:Google Emerges as Early Winner from Europe’s New Data Pri... by Krasnol on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @02:39AM (#17244820)
How can anything be consensual even under the broken US law if one side doesn't know about it or at least doeasn't understand what is happening?!
Re:Google Emerges as Early Winner from Europe’s New Data Pri... by hshehehjdjdjd on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @09:05AM (#17246759)
At least in US law, it is incumbent on the parties of a contract to understand it. If they sign without understanding, that’s on them. Terms of use are a contract between you and a website owner. If you don’t understand them, you can either not use the website, or accept the risk that you’re consenting to something you may not like. (Again, this is the current state in the U.S. I’m aware it’s different elsewhere.)
Re:Google Emerges as Early Winner from Europe’s New Data Pri... by elcapitan on Thursday May 31, 2018 @09:53AM (#17196291)
> The worst I’ve heard about it is that it makes some people feel a little icky.

The worst I've heard of was the abuse of millions of people's data by Cambridge Analytics to mess with an election, but maybe that's just a little icky too?

Re:Google Emerges as Early Winner from Europe’s New Data Pri... by Jyaif on Thursday May 31, 2018 @11:09AM (#17196859)
Your usage of "abuse" is offensive to people that really experienced abuse.
Re:Google Emerges as Early Winner from Europe’s New Data Pri... by elcapitan on Thursday May 31, 2018 @04:04PM (#17199706)
Yeah right, because words always just have one meaning and one context.
Re:Google Emerges as Early Winner from Europe’s New Data Pri... by maxxxxx on Thursday May 31, 2018 @09:50AM (#17196261)
Targeted advertising provides a financial incentive to create a total surveillance structure. It pays off to know every little detail about people's psychology and their habits. So companies have a motivation to create systems that future dictatorships will happily be using.

Without targeted advertising there is much less financial incentive to collect data so the surveillance state won't get help from corporations.