High-quality schools can increase academic achievement among the poor (2010)

Re:High-quality schools can increase academic achievement am... by noir-york on Thursday May 31, 2018 @03:41AM (#17194651)

> The hundred billion dollar question is how do you scale it?

Its been done. Its called a funded welfare state.

> Show me a school model that's succeeding with the most at risk subdemographic within disadvantaged communities and then I'll be impressed.

Absolutely right, because it takes much more thatn just a good school to eradicate poverty. If you really need to help children, you need to start by helping their parents: national healthcare and decent well paying jobs.

Parents will have time to dedicate to their children if they are not busy and drained struggling to keep their head above water.

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Re:High-quality schools can increase academic achievement am... by adrianN on Thursday May 31, 2018 @03:59AM (#17194724)

Germany is a welfare state and yet children from poor parents perform worse in school.

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Re:High-quality schools can increase academic achievement am... by adventured on Thursday May 31, 2018 @04:13AM (#17194779)

The US is a welfare state. Its welfare programs consume a larger share of GDP than the welfare programs of Canada or Australia, and is just below Switzerland. The US is spending 19.3% of its GDP on social welfare programs, just behind the UK at 21.5%.

https://i.imgur.com/JQfZ5vi.png

Inflation adjusted per capita income transfers have roughly doubled since 1990, from ~$4,400 to ~$8,600 in 2016.

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Re:High-quality schools can increase academic achievement am... by noir-york on Thursday May 31, 2018 @04:47AM (#17194927)

So where is all the money going? The UK has a (diminshed) NHS and spends less as a % of GDP.

I suspect that a big part of it is that money is being wasted (the Fed.Gov cannot negotiate drug prices!), and not reaching the intended beneficiaries. My perception is that there is an industrial-welfare complex that diverts the money.

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Re:High-quality schools can increase academic achievement am... by Wohlf on Thursday May 31, 2018 @02:44PM (#17198923)

It's going towards cost disease, waste, bureaucracy, nepotism, lawsuits, etc.

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Re:High-quality schools can increase academic achievement am... by bildung on Thursday May 31, 2018 @07:29AM (#17195519)

Of course they still perform worse, a school cannot magically change the parents of those students into middle class parents.

A better question would be: Is the performance gap between poor students and middle class students lower in Germany?

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Re:High-quality schools can increase academic achievement am... by nunya213 on Thursday May 31, 2018 @12:21PM (#17197555)

Indeed but they perform much better relative to the difference between poor and rich students in the US.

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Re:High-quality schools can increase academic achievement am... by noir-york on Thursday May 31, 2018 @04:42AM (#17194904)

It used to, and then Schröder passed the Hartz reforms and the German welfare state has never been the same since.

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