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Re:IBM Watson Health slashes workforce by TaylorAlexander on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @04:31PM (#17191468)
It seems Watson was founded on the false premise that lots of hand coded things could be called an “AI”. It’s the victim of its own winter, because it was never going to live up to its own hype.
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Re:IBM Watson Health slashes workforce by raverbashing on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @04:35PM (#17191511)
I couldn't have put it better myself.

Participating in Jeopardy was quite an achievement, but to extrapolate that system and selling it as a "solve all" is to over promise.

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Re:IBM Watson Health slashes workforce by jgalt212 on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @04:58PM (#17191714)
To be fair, it did more than participate. It dominated.
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Re:IBM Watson Health slashes workforce by AdamM12 on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @04:33PM (#17191491)
Yeah I kinda remember reading it being accused of being vaporware. Then I googled "Watson vaporware" and got the following [1]. Definitely think they are in that part of the hype cycle.

[1] https://www.technologyreview.com/s/607965/a-reality-check-fo...

edit: "trough of disillusionment" is what I was looking for

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Re:IBM Watson Health slashes workforce by darkerside on Thursday May 31, 2018 @07:56AM (#17195637)
Interesting article, but I'd bet a big part of the reason physicians don't know it's that do much is dependent upon information that lives "out of the system".

How much time will a patient spend on rehab, and will they actually perform the exercises effectively? What's their diet like, not just calories in but in terms of individual nutrients? How active is their lifestyle?

Recovery time seems like something that should be knowable by educated doctors, but the best poker player in the world can't tell you what card is coming up on the river.

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Re:IBM Watson Health slashes workforce by dmreedy on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @04:37PM (#17191538)
Do you imagine that other, more successful "AI" services from large companies do not involve a lot of hand-coded things?
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Re:IBM Watson Health slashes workforce by throwawayok on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @04:51PM (#17191653)
Yes. Well, at the very least, they don't involve only hand-coded things.
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Re:IBM Watson Health slashes workforce by thebluehawk on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @04:52PM (#17191669)
The ones that aren't hand-coded tend to act poorly, or racist, or worst.
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Re:IBM Watson Health slashes workforce by oliviergg on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @04:33PM (#17191488)
Interesting. Do you have some references about this 'hand coded things' ?
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Re:IBM Watson Health slashes workforce by waisbrot on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @04:39PM (#17191559)
"Hand-coded" may be an exaggeration, depending on your field.

ML systems need good training data (where "good" might mean "extremely voluminous") and careful tweaking of parameters. I think an ML expert would call a system where a substantial amount of time is spent here "hand-coded".

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