How ‘Authentic Relating’ Made Vulnerability a Movement (2017)

Re:How ‘Authentic Relating’ Made Vulnerability a Movement (2... by rusk on Tuesday May 29, 2018 @04:35AM (#17177376)

My personal take is that Hedonism isn't zero-sum. By that I mean, a hedonistic life-style can't support itself, so if you're living a hedonistic lifestyle and never have to rebalance yourself you're taking energy somewhere or somebody is emotionally bankrolling you. Thus you sacrifice your individuality, independence and a sizeable chunk of the human experience. For most people if such an approach continues unchecked it leads to burnout.

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Re:How ‘Authentic Relating’ Made Vulnerability a Movement (2... by Aaargh20318 on Tuesday May 29, 2018 @04:38AM (#17177399)

> if you're living a hedonistic lifestyle and never have to rebalance yourself you're taking energy somewhere

What kind of energy are hedonistic people taking ? Electric ? Kinetic ? Thermal ? Magnetic ?

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Re:How ‘Authentic Relating’ Made Vulnerability a Movement (2... by rusk on Tuesday May 29, 2018 @04:47AM (#17177445)

A bit of everything. Of course I meant emotional energy which you're likely to poopoo as "not" energy but I'd contend that the definition of energy in physics is an operational one.

But even so, if you're partying all the time then somebody has to pay to keep the lights on. Somebody has to clean up after you and somebody has to constantly buoy your emotional state and protect you from the negative thoughts that might otherwise threaten your party.

I would contend that all of this takes "energy" as defined in the canon of physics.

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Re:How ‘Authentic Relating’ Made Vulnerability a Movement (2... by Aaargh20318 on Tuesday May 29, 2018 @04:57AM (#17177503)

> if you're partying all the time then somebody has to pay to keep the lights on. Somebody has to clean up after you and somebody has to constantly buoy your emotional state and protect you from the negative thoughts that might otherwise threaten your party

Sure, but that's not what I would call and 'easy and comfortable' life. If I live alone on an island with enough food growing around me to feed me, that would be an easy life. What would that take of other people ?

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Re:How ‘Authentic Relating’ Made Vulnerability a Movement (2... by rusk on Tuesday May 29, 2018 @05:04AM (#17177536)

Fair enough. I don't think that's what most people think of when they hear the word "hedonism".

Sounds lovely though. Sounds like a very nice holiday.

Wouldn't want to get sick.

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Re:How ‘Authentic Relating’ Made Vulnerability a Movement (2... by tomrod on Tuesday May 29, 2018 @06:53AM (#17177965)

Sounds like a form of karma.

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Re:How ‘Authentic Relating’ Made Vulnerability a Movement (2... by rusk on Tuesday May 29, 2018 @08:01AM (#17178301)

Yeah it does actually, though again I'd be concerned about being consigned to the woo category if I used that term.

Also, being a westerner it's one of those concepts I've heard a lot about but almost certainly don't completely grasp, so I wouldn't feel comfortable using it for any kind of rigorous analysis.

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