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Re:The Ottoman Empire: Succession, Deposition and Fratricide by DrScump on Monday May 28, 2018 @07:47PM (#17175461)
"Osman II had not endeared himself to the military by closing the coffee houses owned by many of their members, as they were suspected to be places where seditious groups met to plot rebellion."

This reminded me of England's Charles II[0], who decreed that coffeehouses were "..."nurseries of sedition and rebellion."

[0] http://www.socialstudies.org/sites/default/files/publication...

Re:The Ottoman Empire: Succession, Deposition and Fratricide by trhway on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @03:55PM (#17191180)
>This reminded me of England's Charles II[0], who decreed that coffeehouses were "..."nurseries of sedition and rebellion."

Munich Beer Hall Putsch comes to mind too.

Also reminded an opening scene of a movie that i don't remember the title of - year 195x, Australia, mandatory pub closing time is 18:00, chaotic scene of people in a bar rushing to finish their beers in the last minutes right before closing, a woman at one table (a company of Marxists) exclaims "How can one make a Revolution when pubs are closing at 6pm!"