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Re:Empiricism and the limits of gradient descent by roywiggins on Monday May 28, 2018 @12:46AM (#17170642)
> Given sufficient data, according to the Universal Approximation Theorem, a neural network can learn to model physics.

It just says there are weights to approximate any function, not that you can actually learn the weights. Neural networks trivially can't learn how to approximate noncomputable functions to any accuracy, and there might be a lot of other functions that neural networks are terrible at actually learning.

Re:Empiricism and the limits of gradient descent by srean on Tuesday May 29, 2018 @01:20AM (#17176699)
I am waiting for this uneducated drivel of explaining NN performance by their 'universal function approximator property' to stop. There are tons other schemes that are also universal approximators, they were known before NN was a thing. Why don't we use those ? Why don't they work as well ?

Learning from examples and generalizing is a much different problem from function approximation.

Re:Empiricism and the limits of gradient descent by sannee on Tuesday May 29, 2018 @05:06AM (#17177543)
Maybe suggest using polynomials instead of neural networks next time that happens? :)
Re:Empiricism and the limits of gradient descent by simonster on Monday May 28, 2018 @01:04AM (#17170677)
It's a fair point that the Universal Approximation Theorem does not guarantee that the weights can be learned. OTOH, the physical laws that the article states a neural network cannot discover are computable functions.
Re:Empiricism and the limits of gradient descent by AstralStorm on Monday May 28, 2018 @03:48AM (#17171139)
You need a stronger bound than this. They have to be possible to approximate govern specific network size, architecture and activation functions. Calculating that (or good statistics that will say so approximately) is a hard problem... It is solvable for a bunch of activations in a layered perceptron but attempt extending this to something more complex.