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Re:U.S. Websites Go Dark in Europe as GDPR Data Rules Kick In by downandout on Friday May 25, 2018 @07:17AM (#17152444)
GDPR doesn’t apply to WSJ or any other site that doesn’t “envisage” offering its services to users in the EU. See recital 23.

Edit: apparently they accept EU currencies, which means they have subjected themselves to it.

Re:U.S. Websites Go Dark in Europe as GDPR Data Rules Kick In by degeberg on Friday May 25, 2018 @07:34AM (#17152543)
They do '“envisage” offering its services to users in the EU'. That page has a massive ad (700x500 px) suggesting that I buy a subscription for "DKK10 FOR 3 MONTHS".

If offering their service priced in the local currency of an EU member state doesn't constitute offering services to users in the EU, then I'm not sure what could possibly qualify.

Re:U.S. Websites Go Dark in Europe as GDPR Data Rules Kick In by downandout on Friday May 25, 2018 @07:39AM (#17152571)
I’m not in the EU, so I wouldn’t have seen that. They’re stupid for doing that if that’s the case. If they’re accepting EU currencies, then you are correct that they have subjected themselves to GDPR. Go file a complaint, I assume your country will tag them for millions of euros in a hurry.
Re:U.S. Websites Go Dark in Europe as GDPR Data Rules Kick In by dekrg on Friday May 25, 2018 @07:24AM (#17152471)
What? It says the opposite - if you are providing services to EU residents outside of the EU GDPR applies to you.

http://www.privacy-regulation.eu/en/recital-23-GDPR.htm

> In order to ensure that natural persons are not deprived of the protection to which they are entitled under this Regulation, the processing of personal data of data subjects who are in the Union by a controller or a processor not established in the Union should be subject to this Regulation where the processing activities are related to offering goods or services to such data subjects irrespective of whether connected to a payment.

Re:U.S. Websites Go Dark in Europe as GDPR Data Rules Kick In by downandout on Friday May 25, 2018 @07:26AM (#17152492)
You completely ignored the relevant part of that recital:

In order to determine whether such a controller or processor is offering goods or services to data subjects who are in the Union, it should be ascertained whether it is apparent that the controller or processor envisages offering services to data subjects in one or more Member States in the Union.

Whereas the mere accessibility of the controller's, processor's or an intermediary's website in the Union, of an email address or of other contact details, or the use of a language generally used in the third country where the controller is established, is insufficient to ascertain such intention, factors such as the use of a language or a currency generally used in one or more Member States with the possibility of ordering goods and services in that other language, or the mentioning of customers or users who are in the Union, may make it apparent that the controller envisages offering goods or services to data subjects in the Union

If you are not “offering goods or services to data subjects who are in the Union” then you are not subject to GDPR. As stated in the recital, the mere fact that a site is accessible from within the EU DOES NOT make it subject to GDPR. This recital tells you the test that is used to determine whether or not you are. It isn’t necessarily even required to block EU traffic to be immune from it, though it’s a good idea since you’re playing with fire. You simply can’t translate your site to EU only languages, create content or services that might appeal specifically to EU residents, etc.

No targeting of EU residents = no GDPR liability.

Re:U.S. Websites Go Dark in Europe as GDPR Data Rules Kick In by tobltobs on Friday May 25, 2018 @07:46AM (#17152620)
The WSJ offers an European Edition and the subscription link is open to users from the EU.
Re:U.S. Websites Go Dark in Europe as GDPR Data Rules Kick In by dekrg on Friday May 25, 2018 @07:45AM (#17152611)
>No targeting of EU residents = no GDPR liability.

I'm gonna have to disagree with that interpretation.

If I can use their services from within EU then they are providing services to EU residents regardless whether or they explicitly say that they want EU customers and thus are subject to GDPR.

Re:U.S. Websites Go Dark in Europe as GDPR Data Rules Kick In by downandout on Friday May 25, 2018 @08:01AM (#17152722)
Read the part of the recital that you seem to be ignoring on purpose for whatever reason. It literally says that the mere accessibility of a site from within the EU does not by itself mean that the site is offering services in the EU for the purposes of GDPR. It’s not really up for debate - it is written right there in black and white.

I’ve been through this with actual lawyers. There are things you can do that make you subject to GDPR without explicitly saying you want EU customers - an example might be creating a site in English but that exclusively reports German news. But, for example, if you have a US news site that doesn’t sell subscriptions to EU citizens, isn’t based in the EU, doesn’t specialize in news arising from EU countries, and doesn’t translate its content to EU-only languages, you aren’t subject to it. Again, as stated in the recital, the mere fact that an EU resident can access the site does not by itself trigger GDPR exposure.

Re:U.S. Websites Go Dark in Europe as GDPR Data Rules Kick In by dazilcher on Sunday May 27, 2018 @12:36AM (#17165452)
> It says the opposite - if you are providing services to EU residents outside of the EU GDPR applies to you.

What the GDPR says is irrelevant in sovereign countries outside EU jurisdiction.

Or do you think NY hot dog cart vendors should also follow EU laws just because they happen to sell to EU citizens?

Re:U.S. Websites Go Dark in Europe as GDPR Data Rules Kick In by letsgetphysITal on Friday May 25, 2018 @07:26AM (#17152486)
Does the WSJ accept subscriptions from non-US citizens? If so, they had better get GDPR compliant.
Re:U.S. Websites Go Dark in Europe as GDPR Data Rules Kick In by dazilcher on Sunday May 27, 2018 @12:43AM (#17165467)
Make them.

edit: (prove that GDPR has teeth outside the EU)