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Re:Some frustrated publishers are sitting out Google’s GDPR ... by scaryclam on Friday May 25, 2018 @04:30AM (#17151654)
One of the nice things about the legislation is that it's quite specific about not allowing consent to be buried in legalese. While I imagine things will soften up a little as companies realise they're not going to immediately get slapped with a fine, most companies will at least be more careful since its simple for complaints to be made. Most do not want to bring the ICO's attention to themselves.
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Re:Some frustrated publishers are sitting out Google’s GDPR ... by gcp on Friday May 25, 2018 @04:53AM (#17151749)
Thing is if everything puts up a big notice "YOU MUST AGREE TO BE TRACKED AND SOLD TO USE OUR SERVICE" then people will just click that.
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Re:Some frustrated publishers are sitting out Google’s GDPR ... by krageon on Friday May 25, 2018 @04:58AM (#17151776)
That is coercive, and therefore does not comply (nor does it actually mean consent).
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Re:Some frustrated publishers are sitting out Google’s GDPR ... by lagadu on Friday May 25, 2018 @07:23AM (#17152469)
You can't withhold service based on accepting non-essential data collection without offering alternatives, that falls under coercion and is a direct violation of the regulation. Should you ever see that report them immediately (something I already did once today).
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Re:Some frustrated publishers are sitting out Google’s GDPR ... by gcp on Friday May 25, 2018 @08:17AM (#17152830)
Thank you, I did not know this.
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Re:Some frustrated publishers are sitting out Google’s GDPR ... by dingaling on Friday May 25, 2018 @07:05AM (#17152378)
> then people will just click that.

I'm not certain of that. I think that GDPR's biggest effect, even before going live, was to raise awareness of what companies do with their data.

My wife is not particularly technical but has received four e-mails from a hobby magazine pleading with her, increasingly desperately, to opt-in to marketing. That has caused her to wonder why they're so desperate. Why is her information so valuable to them? What do they do with it? So she has decided not to renew her subscription.

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Re:Some frustrated publishers are sitting out Google’s GDPR ... by e12e on Friday May 25, 2018 @04:57AM (#17151771)
There's provisions to make sure mandatory tracking, profiling is explicitly opt-in, and that there's a real alternative. That might be a fee (eg Gmail could let you pay x/month to disable all targeted ads - or rather; they might have an opt-in gratis/free service that had ads/tracking).
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Re:Some frustrated publishers are sitting out Google’s GDPR ... by icebraining on Friday May 25, 2018 @06:39AM (#17152199)
I don't think that's true; they can offer a paid version or a free version, but they can't offer a version "paid with tracking", even if there's an alternative.
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