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Re:Ineffective Entrepreneurship: Post-Mortem of Hippo by iovrthoughtthis on Thursday May 24, 2018 @03:17AM (#17141746)
No real Scottsman!

What is a real entrepreneur then? Someone who quits their job and risks everything to fail?

You don't have to do that anymore for businesses with basically 0 startup capital requirements, > 90% margins and minimal time commitments ala software.

Are you calling for the classic starving artist entrepreneur who struggles through hell to build their business?

People don't always need to dance like that sort of monkey anymore, please stop demanding the weird masochistic performance porn. Working your self to a lonely death is no longer cool and shouldn't be again.

I'm sure you have other criteria that we must meet to be true entrepreneurs though. I'd love to hear them!

Re:Ineffective Entrepreneurship: Post-Mortem of Hippo by brazzy on Thursday May 24, 2018 @04:45AM (#17142223)
> businesses with basically 0 startup capital requirements [...] and minimal time commitments ala software

I don't know what world you live in, but in mine, new software takes a lot of time to write, or a lot of money to pay someone to write it.

Re:Ineffective Entrepreneurship: Post-Mortem of Hippo by iovrthoughtthis on Thursday May 24, 2018 @04:53AM (#17142245)
I live in world where I can write the MVP to prove a business case in a week after / before work, sometimes with no code!

Edit: My MVPs may not meet your requirements for new software. They will not be all singing, all dancing. They will do some tiny slice of core functionality that allows me to prove the value of technologies application to the problem. Often with serious manual intevention.

Re:Ineffective Entrepreneurship: Post-Mortem of Hippo by brazzy on Thursday May 24, 2018 @08:45AM (#17143384)
An MVP is not a business.
Re:Ineffective Entrepreneurship: Post-Mortem of Hippo by iovrthoughtthis on Thursday May 24, 2018 @09:41AM (#17143855)
I struggled to answer this without derogatory sarcasm.

I agree, an MVP is not a business. I would not expect that a business would be built in a few weeks or even months. My personal experience with businesses is that they take years.

But we're not talking about building a business. You do not launch an MVP and call it a business.

I was specifically talking about proving a business case for a solution that could turn into a business. This is precisely what the things we call 'MVPs' are mean't to be for.

Re:Ineffective Entrepreneurship: Post-Mortem of Hippo by brazzy on Thursday May 24, 2018 @10:44AM (#17144432)
> But we're not talking about building a business. You do not launch an MVP and call it a business.

Then what exactly were you talking about when you wrote this:

> businesses with basically 0 startup capital requirements, > 90% margins and minimal time commitments ala software.

?

> I was specifically talking about proving a business case for a solution that could turn into a business.

At that point, however, you do not have a business. And you're not an entrepreneur.

Re:Ineffective Entrepreneurship: Post-Mortem of Hippo by iovrthoughtthis on Thursday May 24, 2018 @11:15AM (#17144800)
It's evident that you have no wish to change your mind and honestly, I have no wish to change mine.
Re:Ineffective Entrepreneurship: Post-Mortem of Hippo by sidlls on Thursday May 24, 2018 @09:17AM (#17143658)
An MVP is a Minimum Viable Product. What you describe lacks lacks both the "V" and "P" parts.
Re:Ineffective Entrepreneurship: Post-Mortem of Hippo by iovrthoughtthis on Thursday May 24, 2018 @09:38AM (#17143821)
What is you're requirements for:

* Viable? * Product?

My requirements are:

Viable: Someone will use it. Product: Someone will pay me.