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Re:Can Things Be Both Popular and Silenced? by sokoloff on Wednesday May 23, 2018 @07:19AM (#17133145)
> I'm pro stuff like basic income, but also against minimum wage

It seems obvious to me that UBI is a replacement for minimum wage laws.

Context: I'm anti-minimum wage laws, full stop, with or without UBI. I'm also pro-UBI [at around $500-800/mo/adult].

Re:Can Things Be Both Popular and Silenced? by Cthulhu_ on Wednesday May 23, 2018 @07:36AM (#17133248)
It doesn't to me tbf; UBI and no minimum wage means that employers are allowed to hire people for no wage. Then again, there's already loads of ways to get around minimum wage laws, see the gig industry, hospitality (e.g. anyone that depends on tips) industry, and prison labor (modern slavery).
Re:Can Things Be Both Popular and Silenced? by sokoloff on Wednesday May 23, 2018 @07:53AM (#17133334)
> no minimum wage means that employers are allowed to hire people for no wage

With a backstop of "now you won't starve if you turn it down", that is much less problematic.

Today, if someone's skills only create $6 of value per hour, they are economically unemployable. With UBI and no minimum wage, someone could pay them $5/hr and both would be better off than today.