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Re:How to disappear from the internet by krapp on Saturday May 19, 2018 @03:38PM (#17109376)
>But I don’t understand the right you’re referencing. It seems to amount to: if I do something when I am a child, I have a right to use physical violence to stop people from telling stories about it later.

You seem to be using "physical violence" in the sense that anarchists to do when referring to states and their monopoly on force, yet there is no physical violence involved in the removal of data from a database, and I'm not aware of any laws which insist upon using the police, incarceration or similar coercion to enforce such removal.

I believe you're being disingenuous in implying that one political construct (the "right to be forgotten") is rooted in thuggishness while another (the "right to roam") is a universal, and therefore morally pure, constant.

Re:How to disappear from the internet by erikpukinskis on Wednesday May 23, 2018 @09:45PM (#17140312)
No, I mean literal violence, as in the police coming to my house and handcuffing me so they can remove the hard drive from my server... that’s what you’re advocating isn’t it?

As for the roaming vs forgetting thing... the difference is it’s me who is doing the roaming, but I’d have to get everyone else to do the forgetting.

It’s analogous to the difference between sodomy laws and pronoun laws... sodomy is something I do with my partner. Pronouns are something that everyone else around us does.

I don’t have a strong opinion here.. I’m just asking for your help understanding this positive/negative rights thing.

Re:How to disappear from the internet by krapp on Thursday May 24, 2018 @02:43PM (#17147015)
> No, I mean literal violence, as in the police coming to my house and handcuffing me so they can remove the hard drive from my server... that’s what you’re advocating isn’t it?

No, no one is advocating that. I'm not, b5 wasn't - at least not in any way that could reasonably be inferred from their comment - proponents of the right to be forgotten aren't, and because it's a concept of civil law, rather than criminal law, nowhere in the GDPR is any reference made to anything resembling "literal violence, as in the police coming to my house and handcuffing me so they can remove the hard drive from my server."

The "right to be forgotten" is just the right of ownership over one's identity and over the data one provides to businesses. That's it - no violence, no mind control, no gestapo breaking down your door and confiscating your hard drive, no "literal violence", no dystopian nightmare.

If you don't agree that such a right should exist, fair enough - but you've pushed the premise to an absurd extreme and constructed a strawman version of it here. Any right or law, when taken to extremes, because extremist - that's tautological, but arguments from absurdity on that basis are also far from compelling.