Netflix is basically remaking all of TV now

Re:Netflix is basically remaking all of TV now by rayiner on Saturday May 19, 2018 @11:36AM (#17108287)

Netflix is an amazing testament to the fact that copyright does promote the creative arts. It started out as a mere middle man service trying to make a cut in the transaction between content creator and content consumer. But show and movie providers realized the true value of what they were licensing to Netflix, forcing Netflix to create its own, new content. The result is the best, most competitive market in television shows in American history.

Netflix never would’ve done all this if (a) they could easily just stream other peoples’ content, and (b) other people could easily stream their content. Instead, the logical business play would’ve been trying to leverage network effects and lock in to keep consumer eyeballs on their service instead of a competing service.

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Re:Netflix is basically remaking all of TV now by jhall1468 on Saturday May 19, 2018 @11:40AM (#17108306)

I think copyright has largely always been considered a good thing. The reason it's talked about derisively is that it's basically become infinite thanks to the likes of Disney. It was never intended to live that long.

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Re:Netflix is basically remaking all of TV now by mbroncano on Saturday May 19, 2018 @11:39AM (#17108301)

Hunger is a wonderful incentive for creativity and invention, and nobody would argue hunger is desirable.

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Re:Netflix is basically remaking all of TV now by harryh on Saturday May 19, 2018 @08:07PM (#17110444)

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/11/feeling-hungry-hea...

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Re:Netflix is basically remaking all of TV now by Can_Not on Sunday May 20, 2018 @03:39PM (#17114395)

> Of course, when we’re using the word “hunger” to describe the issue of food insecurity, we are indeed describing a problem.

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Re:Netflix is basically remaking all of TV now by axaxs on Saturday May 19, 2018 @11:44AM (#17108330)

I'm not sure that's Netflix's doing, though. I remember reading a few years back that the market was trending towards TV shows. Apparently years ago, being in a TV show was seen as relatively low pay/low class, and at some point that switched. I do think Netflix helps competition, but I honestly don't know anyone whose favorite TV show is a Netflix original. I'd describe their content as good overall, but not on the level of AMC/FX/HBO just yet.

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Re:Netflix is basically remaking all of TV now by dofly on Saturday May 19, 2018 @12:40PM (#17108588)

> but I honestly don't know anyone whose favorite TV show is a Netflix original.

I remember a year or two ago Stranger Things was a massive super hit. I mean that's all reddit could talk about that year - it overshadowed almost every other show at the time.

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Re:Netflix is basically remaking all of TV now by woobar on Saturday May 19, 2018 @01:44PM (#17108868)

Stranger Things was a surprise hit, but not as massive as really big cable shows.

See comparison to Game of Thrones or TWD: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=...

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Re:Netflix is basically remaking all of TV now by ikeboy on Saturday May 19, 2018 @01:09PM (#17108724)

ASOUE and altered carbon were pretty good.

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Re:Netflix is basically remaking all of TV now by aidenn0 on Saturday May 19, 2018 @07:24PM (#17110284)

I didn't like the ASOUE books, but I watched the first episode of the show because my wife loved them. The series is much better than the books, at least partly because the casting is spot-on. In particular, Patrick Warburton as Lemony was an inspired choice.

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Re:Netflix is basically remaking all of TV now by ikeboy on Saturday May 19, 2018 @08:28PM (#17110506)

I liked the books, I like the series because it's mostly true to the books.

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Re:Netflix is basically remaking all of TV now by rayiner on Saturday May 19, 2018 @06:37PM (#17110101)

House of Cards, Daredevil, Jessica Jones?

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Re:Netflix is basically remaking all of TV now by axaxs on Sunday May 20, 2018 @03:43AM (#17111698)

Are any of those your favorite show? House of Cards was entertaining, but I don't know anyone who had it as a favorite or even liked it by the end. If you compare those to shows like Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones, not even a blip. I did say generally good, but let's be honest, Netflix has a ton of junk content, with a few that aren't terrible, such as those you mentioned.

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Re:Netflix is basically remaking all of TV now by rayiner on Sunday May 20, 2018 @12:01PM (#17113332)

Season 1 of Daredevil was probably my favorite show in recent memory (followed by West World). I don’t like political dramas, but House of Cards got huge critical acclaim. Definitely mentioned in the same circles as say Mad Men.

Personally, I’d rather watch Netflix’s catalog over AMC’s or HBO’s.

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Re:Netflix is basically remaking all of TV now by baby on Saturday May 19, 2018 @02:10PM (#17108991)

House or Cards. Mind Hunter. Enuf said.

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Re:Netflix is basically remaking all of TV now by kbutler on Saturday May 19, 2018 @11:40AM (#17108304)

That's an interesting perspective.

I've never heard the argument that copyright promotes progress by making works inaccessible, thereby forcing new creations.

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Re:Netflix is basically remaking all of TV now by jogjayr on Saturday May 19, 2018 @02:43PM (#17109115)

Copyright and the first-sale-doctrine also takes us into weird places like streaming someone a movie is somehow different from buying a DVD and renting it to them. Which is the whole reason Netflix began producing their own content.

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Re:Netflix is basically remaking all of TV now by thomastjeffery on Saturday May 19, 2018 @02:20PM (#17109037)

> Netflix never would’ve done all this

I sincerely doubt that.

They create content to increase the value of their platform. That is unrelated to copyright, except that copyright lets them compel other platforms to not show their content.

We don't have any legal platform without DRM or copyright to compare against. We also can't, because copyright is a monopoly.

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Re:Netflix is basically remaking all of TV now by Scarbutt on Saturday May 19, 2018 @01:00PM (#17108671)

The result is the best, most competitive market in television shows in American history.

I don't know about that, 90% of netflix's content is pretty bad IMO.

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