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Re:Google de-emphasizes 'Don't Be Evil' motto in its code of... by ENGNR on Friday May 18, 2018 @10:36PM (#17106327)
Ironically Bill and Melinda Gates turned into sort of worldwide heroes, targeting the big difficult unprofitable problems with the most social impact
Re:Google de-emphasizes 'Don't Be Evil' motto in its code of... by hodgesrm on Friday May 18, 2018 @11:17PM (#17106457)
It's happened before. Andrew Carnegie gave away most of his fortune which was in its time as substantial as Gates' wealth.

Also, Bill Gates' mom was into public service in big way, so there's some family history. [0] This sort of thing used to be fairly common in the American upper class.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Maxwell_Gates

Edit: punctuation

Re:Google de-emphasizes 'Don't Be Evil' motto in its code of... by _emacsomancer_ on Friday May 18, 2018 @10:51PM (#17106368)
Or having enough money to make unprofitable problems profitable for them (e.g. Step 1 invest in Monsanto; Step 2 push Monsanto in developing companies through 'philanthropy').
Re:Google de-emphasizes 'Don't Be Evil' motto in its code of... by dvfjsdhgfv on Saturday May 19, 2018 @11:24AM (#17108231)
I'm not a fan of Gates, but it's very unfair to say such things without providing a reliable source.
Re:Google de-emphasizes 'Don't Be Evil' motto in its code of... by _emacsomancer_ on Sunday May 20, 2018 @01:29AM (#17111390)
Why is the Gates foundation investing in GM giant Monsanto? - https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/poverty-matte...

Are Gates and Rockefeller using their influence to set agenda in poor states? - https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2016/jan/15/b...

Monsanto, US, & Gates Foundation pressure Kenya to reverse GMO ban - https://www.rt.com/news/328014-kenya-gmo-us-gates-monsanto/

Gates Foundation is spearheading the neoliberal plunder of African agriculture - https://theecologist.org/2016/jan/21/gates-foundation-spearh...

(And there's lots of articles attacking from a more purely anti-GMO stance, which I don't find particularly helpful, as it's largely the politics/economics behind Monsanto that are the most disturbing.)

Re:Google de-emphasizes 'Don't Be Evil' motto in its code of... by dvfjsdhgfv on Sunday May 20, 2018 @01:15PM (#17113757)
Having read these articles, it seems to me he's trying to follow the logic he knows. Hunger? Let's make a partnership with crop-related companies. Diseases? Let's talk to the big pharma. He's following the ways he understands. Not everybody has as much courage as the Indian government in that respect.
Re:Google de-emphasizes 'Don't Be Evil' motto in its code of... by _emacsomancer_ on Sunday May 20, 2018 @10:14PM (#17115777)
> he's trying to follow the logic he knows.

Right - and that's the scary thing. We see what he did in the realm of computing --- now imagine the parallels in the agricultural infrastructure of countries across the world.

Re:Google de-emphasizes 'Don't Be Evil' motto in its code of... by asinionio on Friday May 18, 2018 @10:55PM (#17106379)
He's a hero to some people. I still hate his guts.

And I give him almost no credit for giving some money now. He's giving away stolen money while living in the lap of luxury. Gates acted completely amorally for most of his life and now is simply buying his way into respect. I'm not a Christian, but I'm reminded of Luke 20:45-21:4.

But his Foundation is well-run and effective. Maybe he was a net good for humanity. Probably not, though.

Re:Google de-emphasizes 'Don't Be Evil' motto in its code of... by dvfjsdhgfv on Saturday May 19, 2018 @11:30AM (#17108262)
I see your point, but the guy seems to have a different set of values. When he was asking his marketing department to prepare a series of smear campaigns against Linux and Open Source, for example, I don't think he realized he was doing a wrong thing. In his mind, he was probably saving his company from competition, as he always did.

Also, I think a great momentum of Linux in the late 90s was precisely because people hated Microsoft wholeheartedly, and that was one of the main reasons it didn't die as another toy project. So I'd say yes, a net good for humanity - not because but in spite of what he's done so far.

Re:Google de-emphasizes 'Don't Be Evil' motto in its code of... by _emacsomancer_ on Sunday May 20, 2018 @01:32AM (#17111400)
There's plenty of criticism on his Foundation as well. Even if everything it does is good (on which, see above), there would certainly be questions about whether the money is being spent in the best way possible. Setting all of this aside, I think Gates would have to eradicate several horrible diseases just to break even karmically.
Re:Google de-emphasizes 'Don't Be Evil' motto in its code of... by zeofig on Friday May 18, 2018 @10:44PM (#17106347)
I disagree, and also Gates ruined computers for everyone forever.
Re:Google de-emphasizes 'Don't Be Evil' motto in its code of... by mirimir on Friday May 18, 2018 @11:15PM (#17106448)
How so?

Microsoft let the hardware go open-source and generic. And that was an incredible win.

Conversely, Apple and Google ruined handheld computers (which we now call smartphones) forever. So far, anyway. They're fundamentally unsecurable. It's at least nontrivial, and perhaps impossible, to prevent surveillance and tracking.

Re:Google de-emphasizes 'Don't Be Evil' motto in its code of... by cptskippy on Friday May 18, 2018 @10:48PM (#17106358)
You won me over with that compelling argument.
Re:Google de-emphasizes 'Don't Be Evil' motto in its code of... by sjwright on Friday May 18, 2018 @11:41PM (#17106534)
I disagree. If Windows were a lot better, the open source revolution might not have gained quite so much momentum. If IE was a lot better—or rather if they didn't let it stagnate—the very concept of installing alternative browsers might never have entered the mainstream zeitgeist.
Re:Google de-emphasizes 'Don't Be Evil' motto in its code of... by beenBoutIT on Saturday May 19, 2018 @12:02AM (#17106592)
Same thing is true for Apple's OS, which for many serves as an expensive several year pit-stop between abandoning Microsoft and embracing open source.