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Re:Reports from Nest Secure customers who are unable to arm/... by saudioger on Friday May 18, 2018 @11:51AM (#17102420)
It's kind of a combination of things — IP cameras definitely don't have the greatest software... and combined with shitty entry-level routers port-forwarding is definitely frustrating to the average person... then you get into dynamic IPs from ISPs, etc...

It's just annoying that there's no middle ground between "hold my hand with a cloud service" and "I want to spend a little effort to not be 100% reliant on external services"

Google could decide to fold Nest service entirely (luckily there aren't signs of that) and at this point you'd have thousands of thousands of devices in a landfill. It's so irresponsible. Historically you could have a CCTV setup running for 10-20 years without huge issues.

>I suspect there are now modern, IP cameras that aren't cloud reliant

It's surprisingly limited and still a bit expensive. Foscam/Hikvision have been getting better, but it still feels a few years behind when it comes to firmware... and the notification and advanced "human detection" are obviously better with a cloud service.

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